Submitted 1 year ago by Goronmon@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.phoronix.com/review/framework-13-amd
I did a Passmark compare against their Intel offering, the i7-1360P (offered at the same price), and the difference is incredible - 24% better performance overall, at only a 1% higher TDP (and only a 0.5% lower single thread).
cpubenchmark.net/…/AMD-Ryzen-7-7840U-vs-Intel-i7-…
Both mainboards are in stock and being sold for $699.
1% higher rated TDP, but real world power consumption is a much different world.
What are your PL1 and PL2s set to? My 11th Gen. i9 has a “TDP” of 45 watts, but really it’s 109. Same for any modern CPU from Intel. Intels website says base power is 28 watts, but “maximum turbo power” is 64.
AMDs website says the 7840 has an AMD Configurable TDP of 35-54W, and they’re kinda falling down the same trap that Intel pioneered. But their power consumption in all loads but balls out is still typically much better, and IMO that’s much more important in a laptop than balls out performance.
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13 With AMD Ryzen 7040 SeriesMakes For A Great Linux Laptop
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
I’ve been testing out the Framework Laptop 13 the past month and after a BIOS update has been working out wonderfully on Linux.
Another pleasant change since looking at the original Framework laptop in 2021 has been the company providing even better Linux support.
The only notable Linux support caveat for the current hardware is possible fingerprint reader issues if not running on the latest firmware.
The embedded controller is based on the Google Chromebook EC and making use of Zephyr.
One step further it would be great if the Framework 13 AMD laptop made use of Coreboot, but alas that’s not the case.
Hopefully though that will become more of a reality as AMD OpenSIL hits production in ~2026 and that we continue seeing more open-source firmware efforts invested by Framework.
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I’m rocking this right now with Ubuntu and it’s really nice. I’ve actually run into a lot of weirdness but it’s entirely the fault of Ubuntu and I’ll probably switch to something else soon, but the build quality is top notch and I can’t believe how fast the 7040u is, especially considering it fits in a laptop.
I’ll probably put Windows on a usb drive for photoshop and a few other things but I don’t think I’m ever going back to it as a daily driver.
‘DIY Edition Build it yourself and bring your OS, including Linux. Starting at $1,399.00’
I hate to crap on a project like framework too much, but I fail to see the value it brings to the table compared to other options. 900$ for a Chromebook, 1.4k for a “DIY” laptop, 1.7k for the same laptop but assembled.
300-400$ used gaming laptops can be found on eBay, are repairable, and run Linux just as easily (minus maybe switching to official Nvidia drivers, but it’s still only a couple commands a way). For 1k I’m sure you can get a variety of very premium laptops.
It pretty much comes down to three things, all driven by their system’s modularity:
Whether this is worth it is up to you. Anecdotally, I have to replace my current laptop because the keyboard is dying. The rest is still fine, it’s just the keyboard. In hindsight, paying more upfront and being able to just order a new keyboard for fifty bucks would’ve saved me some money.
Definitely look into keyboard replacement. I’ve replaced so many laptop keyboards and flipped the laptop or used it for myself from people too lazy to learn how to replace the keyboard. I have yet to run into a model that doesn’t have one you can buy on eBay.
I agree with your points, but aren’t most laptop keyboards replacable?
The big thing you get with frameworks is super simple repairability. This means service manuals, parts availability, easy access to components like the battery, RAM, ssd, etc. Customizable ports are also a nice feature. You can even upgrade the motherboard later down the line instead of buying a whole new laptop.
I recently upgraded my 12th gen Intel with a new gorgeous matte screen and the process didn’t take more than 5 minutes, despite one of my arms being in a cast!
Good point but the upgradability is important to
I dunno, I would think these are two different markets.
Used gaming laptops on eBay that you need to repair a little bit is a different market than built to order Linux compatible laptops.
Maybe I didn’t word that right. Meant that they run out of the box, but if they break they can be repaired fairly easily.
Can’t wait for the reviews of the 16 model
long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I’ll buy a framework when they finally add the Coreboot support they promised.