The truth telling process should have come first.
Maybe it didn’t have to if we had a government ready for the fight phrases like “History Wars” and “Great Australian Silence” should have made bleedingly obvious was coming, but that’s not the government we have.
As it stands the emboldened and networked hard and far right off the back of a no vote may be a more urgent reason to vote yes than the institution at the heart of the matter. They will likely now pose a threat to the rights of far more Australians, well more than 50%.
stifle867@programming.dev 1 year ago
Despite the author lambasting the ignorance behind the “don’t know, vote no” messaging (rightly so), there’s no actual explanation of what a “vote yes” accomplishes. I would love to vote yes but I haven’t been able to find any resource on what it meaningfully accomplishes.
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Voting Yes accomplishes the recognition of Indigenous Australians in the constitution, which is symbolically important as they are our first Australians and their culture is an important part of our history as a nation.
Voting Yes also accomplishes the implementation of a policy advisory committee, that may or may not lead to better designed and more efficient Indigenous policy making, potentially saving taxpayers a lot of money and leading to better health/education/employment/etc outcomes for Indigenous Australians. Because the constitutional amendment we are voting on does not include specific details about the formation and targets of the advisory committee, it could theoretically be as flexible as is needed at any given time. For example, in a perfect world where all Indigenous disadvantage has been eliminated, the advisory body could instead become an important figurehead for the celebration of Indigenous culture within Australia.
Voting Yes in this referendum also ensures that there will finally be an Indigenous advisory committee that is immune to the total disbandment we have seen from previous hostile governments throughout Australia’s history. This is something that has happened on multiple occasions and it’s a key reason why Australia has struggled to make progress with regards to the many social issues stemming from colonisation. If you keep tearing up the plan completely every few years, it is very difficult to achieve anything long-term.
Ultimately, voting Yes guarantees important symbolic recognition. Voting No does not. That is the fundamental difference in the immediate outcome of this referendum, based on what we are voting for.
stifle867@programming.dev 1 year ago
Thank you for replying so thoughtfully. This has explained it better to me than anyone else has (from both sides).
I think part of the communication problem is how wishy-washy the vote is. Without the historical context the importance of the vote gets completely missed. I’ve heard so many people wave their hands and say “representation”, “constitution”, etc., but no one is able to define anything. Your comment makes it clear to me that it’s not so much about the affirmative action, but explicitly avoiding the failures of the past.
Side note: it’s crazy to think we don’t even have a constitutional freedom of speech
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
what do you want to know? it hasn’t happened yet so we don’t know what the precise outcome will be.
constitutionally what is accomplishes is enshrining in the constitution a body called the voice which has the right to address Parliament on matters relating to aboriginal and Torres straight islander people.
what this stops governments doing is disbanding advisory councils etc which they have done repeatedly.
The statement from the heart (ulurustatement.org/…/view-the-statement/) specifically requests it. you can read about what they hope it to accomplish here: ulurustatement.org/the-voice/what-is-the-voice/
What have you googled and found unsatisfactory?
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Partially true but, as I have said in my reply to this comment, the proposed constitutional amendment contains this line
which is clear symbolic recognition of the importance of Indigenous peoples and their culture to the history of Australia. Regardless of what the advisory body looks like or achieves, constitutional recognition would be a clear positive outcome in the result of a Yes vote. It is important to many Indigenous Australians, but it should also be seen as important to all Australians as we continue to mature as a nation and move forward from our bloody colonial past.
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Dude
stifle867@programming.dev 1 year ago
That website us exactly what I’m talking about. It lists all these great things but if you actually look at the wording of the actual referendum it doesn’t include the majority of these points.