Remote desktop

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨rambos@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

Hello selfhosters, I’ve been using different remote desktop apps to support few friends and family members with their Windows or Linux desktop machines. Sometimes I also use phone (Android) when I’m away from home.

I tried 3 services so far:

TeamViewer - its amazing, but it recognized me as non-private user and asking for money…
AnyDesk - even better experience than TeamViewer. It also started with non-private use and messages to buy a license (after creating account it stopped doing that). It works perfectly fine, but sometimes it gets super slow and it tends to reduce stream quality by too much
RustDesk - finally found open source solution and it has the same features like others I tried. The problem with RustDesk is simmilar to AnyDesk, sometimes its super slow, laggy and with reduced stream quality and sometimes connection breaks. It has permanent message on the bottom:

Ready, For faster connection, please set up your own server.

Sounds like a perfect task for my server on fiber network.

I checked self hosted RustDesk service, but it requires opening ports. I have open wireguard port to my home server to connect to home network when needed. I don’t like idea of opening more ports just because it doesn’t feel safe in my hands, but maybe I’m wrong. Am I missing something? What do you use for remote desktop? Do you have the same experience with any service I mentioned here? Is anyone selfhosting RustDesk server? Are there better (free or affordable) alternatives available? I prefer selfhosted if possible. 10$ a month is kinda steep for me and my needs. I don’t need super high quality stream, but would be nice to have simple solution that just works

All tips are welcome

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empireOfLove@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
As far as security goes, 1 open port and 1000 open ports contain basically the same level of risk exposure to the internet- a hole will always be a hole. If you need to open a few more for rustdesk, just do it, and be diligent about your firewall rules.

I’ve used VNC inside my LAN before with decent results, and it doesn’t break graphics drivers like windows RDP does. However, not FOSS.

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Thx, Ill try VNC. I might open port at the end, but there are many options in other comments Id like to try as well
  
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ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I use NoMachine, but that’s in a Linux-to-Linux environment.

Did a test last weekend sitting in a department store parking lot on the store’s public wifi, wifi bitrate about 50Mbps both ways, 50ms between me and my homelab … very very usable experience with quality set at 6/10.

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- Nails@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  This. Everything else my partner and I tried with our home server was some kind of BS (except SSH obviously) except for NoMachine. Bulletproof.
  
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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Thank you. Sounds good, but linux to linux is not enough for me unfortunately. I need something that works on android and windows as well
  
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  - Kolgeirr@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    NoMachine has Android and Windows clients too.
    
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jflesch@lemmy.kwain.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I for one use and self-host Meshcentral. The GUI is ugly, but it works well.

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Ive heard about meshcentral, its on my list to try it out. Thx
  
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Concave1142@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I use Apache Guacamole with Duo 2FA and LDAP authentication. All of it is self hosted and sitting behind Nginx for SSL. Works great aside from when I’m in the office and they do some security te blocking that I’m too lazy to find a work around for as I rarely go into the office.

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- 4am@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Why the downvote for Guacamole? Is it because it’s not practical to OPs question? Did something happen with the project? I’m not up to speed, but have been mulling over using it for my setup for a while now.
  
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debounced@kbin.run ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
i use Tailscale on everything these days (or use Headscale if you want to self host the control plane). with the free plan you get up to 100 devices on a "tailnet", just set the right ACLs to only allow the remote connection ports of choice, pair it with self hosted RustDesk, and you should be good to go. the NAT traversal of Tailscale is pretty good from what i've observed, but sometimes you might get stuck on a relay (called a DERP) if it can't get across the firewall(s).

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I know about tailscale as alternative to bare metal wireguard server, but the rest is new to me. Ill read more about that thx
  
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GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Are you doing the support for free? If so I would make another teamviewer account.

I’ve only heard of them asking for money if you connect to a computer with a paid account. Are you connecting to computers with paid teamviewer instances?

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yeah doing it for free and never had a paid version. It could be that some computers had paid support via TeamViewer, but It wasnt me. I stopped using TeamViewer many years ago, I could give it another try. thx!
  
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FuyuhikoDate@silkky.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
At work we are using anydesk and boy… Even the paif Version isnt really Taster than the free one imho.

Rufst is the next one i wanna try. About the openong ports. Maybe run it in a docker Container? For me a self hosted solutions also Sounds super nice and i gonna Look into it.

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- Sharpiemarker@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  At work we are using anydesk and boy… Even the paif Version isnt really Taster than the free one imho.
  
  Rufst is the next one i wanna try. About the openong ports. Maybe run it in a docker Container? For me a self hosted solutions also Sounds super nice and i gonna Look into it.
  
  FTFY
  
  At work we are using anydesk and boy… Even the paid version isnt really faster than the free one imho.
  
  Rust is the next one i wanna try. About the opening ports. Maybe run it in a docker Container? For me a self hosted solution also Sounds super nice and I’m gonna look into it.
  
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  - FuyuhikoDate@silkky.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Damn… Yeah saw All the typos now sorry xD
    
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Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters

SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access

SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption

VNC Virtual Network Computing for remote desktop access

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CausticFlames@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I personally use hop2desk for all of my remote access needs. Works wonderfully on any pc as well as on android! Best part is you dont need to dick with ports or anything like that, just make sure you set a good persistent password and you’re good to go.

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- rambos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  This looks super promising thank you
  
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Fewer Letters	More Letters
SSH	Secure Shell for remote terminal access
SSL	Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
VNC	Virtual Network Computing for remote desktop access