US government issues first-ever space debris penalty to Dish Network

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• majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  150,000 is nothing to a company who built their own satellite network

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  • jeffw@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The fine should be commensurate with the cost of removing it. In other words, a lot more

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Plus, given poor corporate behavior exemplified by recent headlines about defunct oil wells, they need to post a bond ahead of time, to be forfeit if they don’t clean up

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  • astropenguin5@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair it is only for a single satellite not being properly de-orbited, not for a whole constellation being a problem.

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    • reshuffle6655@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah but if the fine is less than the cost of doing it right, then doing it wrong and paying the fine is the more profitable way to do business. Something tells me they saved a lot more than this cost them.

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  • ramblinguy@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This should be an ongoing 150k a month until the satellite is decommissioned in order for it to be anywhere near meaningful

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• not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Pennies. That’s all I read.

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  Dish Network has to pay $150,000 to the commission over its failure to de-orbit its EchoStar-7 satellite which has been in space for more than two decades.

  “As satellite operations become more prevalent and the space economy accelerates, we must be certain that operators comply with their commitments,” said Enforcement bureau chief Loyaan A Egal, in the statement announcing the Dish settlement.

  “This is a breakthrough settlement, making very clear the FCC has strong enforcement authority and capability to enforce its vitally important space debris rules.”

  In 2002, Dish launched the satellite into geostationary orbit – a field of space that begins 22,000 miles (36,000km) above Earth.

  They say that the more old material that stays in orbit, the harder it is for incoming satellites to start and complete new missions.

  “Right now there are thousands of metric tons of orbital debris in the air above – and it is going to grow,” FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel said in a 2022 statement that accompanied the announcement of the rule.

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• SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Nice in concept.

  In practice this is useless- a $150k fine when removing the satellite will someday cost millions.

  It’s also worth noting that de-orbiting was never the plan here. Geosynchronous satellites are too far up to make that practical- at 22,000 mi altitude, the amount of delta-v necessary for a deorbit is gigantic. So instead the satellite ‘boosts’ up to a ‘graveyard’ orbit about 300km above the geosynchronous ring.
  Dish only boosted it 122km above the geosynchronous ring. Thus the fine. In practice this satellite will probably cause nobody any problems.

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• tabular@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Should US law apply in orbit? (not saying something shouldn’t be done about space junk)

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• RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Littering and, littering and…

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• iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But not the moron that launched a car?

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  • whileloop@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s not the Musk space debris we should be concerned about. The car is orbiting the Sun between Earth and Mars, extremely unlikely to be a problem for anyone. A needle in a planet full of haystacks.

    Starlink, on the other hand, is several hundreds of satellites orbiting in a shell in low Earth orbit. Close calls happen all the time with these.

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    • BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Satellites in low earth orbit (LEO) de-orbit themselves fairly quickly after they run out of fuel keeping them on station. They lose altitude constantly due to air drag (there is a very tiny amount of air on LEO). LEO space junk solves itself.

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    • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hundreds? There are over 5000 starlink satellites up there.

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    • vector_zero@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How close are we talking?

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  • DietSalt_BolognaPony@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Technically his satellites aren’t junking space up, since they just keep burning up.

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