Router for multigig internet

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨billygoat@catata.fish⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

So I’m finally upgrading to multi gig (either 2gb or 5gb google fiber) and will need a new router. On att 1gb atm. I’ve narrowed it down to either the QNAP QHora-301W or the [TP-Link AXE16000 (a.co/d/2q0T4Ow). Curious if anyone else with google fiber is using either of these?

Also, I’ve read conflicting posts about being able to use your own router to directly connect to the fiber(such as using an SFP module on the to link router). Admittedly I know very little about SFP and am trying to figure it all out prior to ordering in the next few weeks.

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drdabbles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Flat out, I will never buy another item from QNAP. Ever. Their “support” is a joke, and their only fix for hardware that doesn’t work on “supported” OS due to old firmware is to return it and hope to get a new one with a new firmware that actually works. Like, WTF? And “supported” here means they have some old, janky, partially functional Linux app that ran on an Ubuntu desktop once upon a time. No headless system support for a server attached product. And really, they want you running it on a Windows desktop.

Beyond that, the physical hardware itself was super generic gear. I was unimpressed with paying a premium after friends all recommended QNAP, and I got what was basically a child’s toy that they didn’t expect a professional to be using.

As for multi-gig router, if you’re doing dynamic, addressing and masquerading then I can recommend the unified dream machine pro. The second edition is more capable, and has a faster backplane between the 10 gig land and land ports and the one gig ports. The original dream machine pro that I have does not have that feature, and it’s sorely missed.

If you need to do any complex routing, or static addressing then things get a little more wonky. Wonky. Very obviously does not expect this device to be a real router, but rather than that and masquerade gateway for a small business office. It totally works, and I’ve had mine for a few years now, but it’s just something to be aware of.

Mikrotik also makes a 10g router device, as do a couple other companies. They’ll expect you to be a bit more experienced, though. I’m not sure what your skill level is, but they are options at least.

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Unkend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Use a old PC with Pfsense, Opnsense, or OpenWRT, as you can buy a MELLANOX CONNECTX-3 for like $25 on ebay, and you can get a Good AP that supports OpenWRT for like $70-$100, and a a switch for like $120 that has one 10Gb in and one 10Gb out with 4-8 2.5Gb ports. I do recommended Opnsense then you can have IPS etc. docs.opnsense.org/manual/ips.html

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- Quill0@lemmy.digitalfall.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  This is a good idea, just be aware you’re going to pay a premium to power an old pc compared to an embedded system
  
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  - Unkend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The power cost to run some systems 24/7 is like $10-$50+ a year.
    
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Morgikan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
SFP is pretty straightforward. Most of the SFP modules you can buy you just connect and they work. For something like that, you would be doing fiber to ethernet hand off at a switch. Then you have pretty much everything run to the switch including router and just VLAN isolate. It’s not super complicated, but if you never messed with VLANs it might be better to go with something pre-packaged unless you’re up for learning.

You could also do a DIY router and run a multi-gig SFP+ network card over PCIe. You still have to purchase a separate SFP module for that, but that is another option.

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TechAdmin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
My info may be outdated as I last had G Fiber about a year ago but have moved out of their service area :(

When I first got the 2G down/1G up G Fiber service there was no bridge mode & had to use their provided device as modem+router+wifi. They updated it to add in a bridge mode option but I never tested it. I had dropped back down to 1G down & up before that options was available.

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- DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Plugging the provider’s SFP+ module into a UDM Pro is my plan for when I inevitably upgrade to multigig. You can spoof the ONT/modem/router’s MAC address in software. Suspect the same is possible on other more advanced platforms.
  
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Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
My research steered me away from the QNAP on throughput issues. I really wanted a Dream Machine Pro, but they we’re out of my price range.

I ended up getting an Asus RT-AX89X and a 10G SFP+ card and am pretty impressed. I saw one used recently <$200. I get about 2.3G down, 3.5G up with the various IPS/IDS programs running.

The TP-Link wasn’t really an option when I upgraded. Nothing against it, but $500 is high. Would choose a DMP over that on price alone.

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Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:

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PCIe Peripheral Component Interconnect Express

Unifi Ubiquiti WiFi hardware brand

VPN Virtual Private Network

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PCIe	Peripheral Component Interconnect Express
Unifi	Ubiquiti WiFi hardware brand
VPN	Virtual Private Network