Weight-loss drugs alone will not solve UK’s obesity crisis, says Chris Whitty

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• WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “Vaccines aren’t the solution to polio. I support behavioral changes and personal responsibility instead.”

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  • OxiZero@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Exactly, well said.

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• Gentryfried@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why does everyone suddenly seem to regard weight loss drugs as safe? Up until RFK became health chief in the USA administration, stuff like Ozempic was a joke. Now it’s actually prescribed to people other than the Kardashians

  The thing is, weight loss should be about learning and easing yourself into the habits of 1. Healthy Eating 2. Adequate Exercise 3. Not sitting on your arse all day, hence I feel like giving people a hack to skip all that grind is not good - you avoid learning about how to take care of yourself in the process.

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  • OxiZero@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    3. Not sitting on your arse all day

    This kind of moral judgement type of advice really doesn’t help. As for the other two, that’s true if you want to drop a few Kgs. Obesity comes with hormonal changes that work like a conveyor belt dragging a person towards more weight. It takes more effort to stay still than I think you believe it takes to lose it all.

    On top of that, dieting triggers a hormonal process that seeks calorific foods and holds on to more of those calories. This has evolved to help us survive food shortages, but is backfiring on a population wide level now that food is no longer scarce. If dieting were the answer then Weight Watchers and Slimming World would have solved this problem decades ago. Instead they encouraged people to fall into the yo-yo diet trap that leads to ever more weight going on each time the cycle completes.

    This is all hormonal, not willpower driven.

    What GLP-1 inhibitors do is to shut down or quieten this hormonal response. This means that people can then do the obvious bit of eating less and moving more without their own bodies sabotaging them.

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    • Gentryfried@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This kind of moral judgement type of advice really doesn’t help.

      Sorry if that was triggering, I’m not actually that kind of super critical person. I just thought it would be an appropriate time to slip in a joke-y phrase and I guess it didn’t come across as lighthearted. I myself am very sedentary, so I don’t actually hold contempt towards people for it.

      That being said, the reason I threw that phrase in was because i feel the NHS (or at least, Wes Streeting) is making precisely these kinds of moral judgements when doing these decisions. And that the government is shying away from holistic improvement of our society.

      On top of that, dieting triggers a hormonal process that seeks calorific foods and holds on to more of those calories. This has evolved to help us survive food shortages, but is backfiring on a population wide level now that food is no longer scarce. If dieting were the answer then Weight Watchers and Slimming World would have solved this problem decades ago. Instead they encouraged people to fall into the yo-yo diet trap that leads to ever more weight going on each time the cycle completes.

      What GLP-1 inhibitors do is to shut down or quieten this hormonal response. This means that people can then do the obvious bit of eating less and moving more without their own bodies sabotaging them.

      Very enlightening. This is pretty much what I wanted to know - if it’s actually regarded safe and useful - because when ozempic was rolled out in the USA there was some uproar about it and I personally don’t trust Trump’s regime with healthcare, so seeing that the NHS was promoting ozempic gave me pause.

      After seeing your reply and mannycalavera’s i’m more optimistic about ozempic

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  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The thing is, weight loss should be about learning and easing yourself into the habits of 1. Healthy Eating 2. Adequate Exercise 3. Not sitting on your arse all day, hence I feel like giving people a hack to skip all that grind is not good - you avoid learning about how to take care of yourself in the process.

    Whilst true, for a lot of people they have no will power or ability to change their habits of a lifetime without drug based stimuli. So it is to cater for them. Otherwise the NHS cost burden is simply far too high over the long run.

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  • zedcell@lemmygrad.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Pathetic moralising about a health issue that exists purely because companies exploit a portion of humanity’s inability to properly regulate their consumption behaviour, all the while crushing them in work and denying them access to free and regular access to high quality exercise sites and equipment.

    Any reprieve people can get, medical or otherwise, from this manufactured hell we’ve been forced into is good. Being a puritanical, and denying people access to help because it’s too easy and ‘skips all the grind’ is frankly pathetic at best and outright malicious and violent at worst.

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