Many years ago I was watching Rising Up with Sonali, as I always do, when she brought on a famous Cali. Chef that converted to Veganism cooking at her restaurants & started investigating how Vegan the food was, she was buying. Only to find that the non-DIY & big growers had no way to provide her the food, without killing other Beings! She is not talking about just pesticides, side effects or intended, but actually taking action to kill them. WOW MOMENT, AS SHE EXPLAINED IT! THAT WAS EVEN THOUGH I HAVE LIVED IN A AG., FORMERLY DOMINATED BY FARMERS, AREA FOR 40+-YEARS!
Since other Beings naturally or have no other option eat whatever is grown (if grown indoors, then deprives other Beings ability to have more land as growing a food source), * the non-DIY & big growers have to kill the other Beings to economically survive *.
I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE WALKED, RAN, BICYCLED & DROVE RIGHT PAST A LOT OF HUGE FARMERS’ LANDS, BARRON OF ANY OTHER LIFE!

If I alone paid for & selected our Vegan foods, I would have made a huge switch & started growing even more food on our own property.

I hope this does not cause anyone to give-up on Being A Vegan, when it comes to food, but instead causes everyone to work to grow their own Vegan foods & learn to cook without the non-DIY & big growers. By the chef, did change from Strict Vegan chef to a chef that is but Vegan & non-Vegan. That is BLANKED-UP!

Interesting question why has this not rocked The Vegan world & caused serious change?