Today the risks of artificial intelligence are clear — but the warning signs have been there all along
Not a single one of them has ever contacted me.
These Women Tried to Warn Us About AI
Submitted 1 year ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to technology@lemmy.world
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Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 1 year ago
AI is here to stay whether you like it or not. It is too valuable and useful to abandon. Like the Industrial Revolution, it will bring with it negative effects along with the good. Such is human history.
yeather@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Wait, the big warning was only white tech people were into AI? I’m pretty sure Terminator and Terminator 2 warned us more about AI than these random women.
Jonna@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You mean the women whose degrees and careers were working on AI and who published informed critiques and who were fired for not retracting their criticism?
Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
long response,
TLDR: it’s not what they’re saying, but how they’re saying it. while i don’t disbelieve the possibility of shitty actors doing shitty things which resulted in these claims, i do disagree with the emphasis used while addressing the issue.
also this is more of an open letter answering your question, so my statements and questions are open and not directed towards you personally.
firstly, I definitely agree with a lot of the article. the person responsible for cops using this technology for arrests needs to be put down hard. i think there needs to be very strict conditions showing how the system mitigates bias before such use is even potentially ethical.
the primary reason i think articles like this earn a lot of friction is that much of the framing has been towards entirely defining their and other people’s personalities and lives and actions purely by their demographic. personally i despise the trend, and have grown an appreciation for things like VR socialization for this reason, where you are yourself and what you choose to be. it feels much less likely for others to dismiss your opinion, insult you, or attack you purely due to your demographic.
this type of trend would explain why many would find it credible when "Google AI head Jeff Dean acknowledged that the paper “surveyed valid concerns about LLMs,” but claimed it “ignored too much relevant research.”
frankly, i believe much in how these people are addressing the issue itself encourages “the exacerbation of racism and sexism.” which they claim, and i hope believe to be against. i think encouraging people to define themselves and others by demographic above all else is harmful and segregationist. those i am familiar with in the field are very eager to ensure a solution to the problem of bias, without instigating or encouraging a culture focused on people defining themselves purely by their demographic.
note the phrase "they’re either wealthy enough to get out of it, or white enough to get out of it, or male enough to get out of it,”
this is the kind of race/gender-war inciting garbage i’m talking about. just casually slipping “white” and “male” with “wealthy” is probably going to set off many peasants of the demographic. i’m also generally intolerant of the idea that blatant bigotry is A-OK when it’s “punching up” against the “bad demographic.”
i’m pretty sure every bigot thinks their target is the “bad demographic.”
i remember waiting outside of a library as a child, being beaten until my eyes were swollen shut by people i didn’t know due to this rhetoric. afterwards they claimed i used a slur and i was the one blamed for the incident. i was a poor child from an abusive and unloving home who just wanted to read a book and escape. i said nothing to these older kids, because i had no ambition to experience the treatment of strangers. i could say a lot for my privileged foster children friends also growing up being neglected and abused on a regular basis. i’m sure they have no issue accepting their privilege. although usually the response to that is to completely erase their personal experience or tragedy by saying “but they probably still had it better because of their demographic.” i’ll note that personal experience is far too variable to justifiably make such a claim.
“punching up” isn’t defensible when it leads to children being attacked for no fault of their own other than the body they were born into. especially when the things that directly encourage it do not actually improve anything. there are many other personal anecdotes on the topic, but i think the occurrence itself should be obviously indefensible. unless you are a hateful monster.
i guarantee being lumped in with the asshole “elite” families that have come from privilege is a distressing experience for many not-so-privileged members of the demographic. denounced as the evil bad, enemy of progress and good, by the original sin of the body they were born into. regardless of any action, thought, intention or experience they’ve ever held. the less reasonable actors in the demographic will probably not find a poetic way to voice this dissatisfaction. probably furthering the cycle of shitty experiences by the innocents on either side.
we won’t even get into the neurotic requirements of addressing microaggressions.
why can’t we deal with the issues of bias and demographics without actively encouraging the exacerbation of racism and sexism? weren’t they calling that the existential threat in the article?
again, to say openly to everyone, your experience is not everyone else’s experience. your local community and experiences are not always relatable to the experience of everyone else. there is a weirdly high dimensional and abstracted nature to the experiences and interpretations of these concepts. there are billions of individuals, and almost as many different and differently sized groups of every kind. bad actors and shitty people exist on every side, and will take the leeway they are given to be abusive or hateful to whomever they see as “the enemy.”
we are all human, we should all define ourselves as human, and work to mitigate the evil that is prejudice and hate without also directly encouraging it. is that really an unreasonable request?
that’s my two cents anywho. please don’t label me with things i disagree with or find abhorrent purely because you want to defend segregationist rhetoric.