Australia has a $127,000 housing affordability question

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• Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Those objecting to the densification of Australia’s cities needn’t worry because there aren’t enough tradies to build the apartments anyway.

  I love Kohler’s writing, he’s got this gentle satirisation style that punctuates the sometimes dry topics he covers.

  Anyway supply and demand, how about the electorate start realising demand is the problem as well, and maybe we’ll get there. I suppose the problem there is it comes back to the Upton Sinclair quote,

  It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it

  Too few home owners are willing to sacrifice their personal slice of wealth for a more stable national settlement. So the ivory tower grows, so the space on each floor narrows. Such is a downside of Australia’s strong ownership rights largely only enforceable by the already wealthy.

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• hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t agree its complicated, demand is never the problem, it’s always and only supply and that’s a reflection of poor governance…So fuck voters for electing and reelecting neoliberal shit bags making sure its only ever made worse, particularly hypocritical Labor . At least the LNP wear their greed and disdain on thier sleeves, similarly with Climate Change.

  It’s like suggesting a lack of food is a demand problem

  Orwell wrote this about British Labour 80 yeaea ago and it applies today to them as well as the ALP .

  All left-wing parties in the highly industrialized countries are at bottom a sham, because they make it their business to fight against something which they do not really wish to destroy. They have internationalist aims, and at the same time they struggle to keep up a standard of life with which those aims are incompatible. We all live by robbing Asiatic coolies, and those of us who are ‘enlightened’ all maintain that those coolies ought to be set free; but our standard of living, and hence our ‘enlightenment,’ demands that the robbery shall continue.

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  • Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Okay interesting, thats a broad point to claim. If supply is always the problem, and demand never the problem, then, running with the food theme, why is sugar so popular?

    Humans went to extraodinray lengths, and committed many crimes against others to produce and secure supplies of sugar cane in particular. Whole nations now exist that are a result of that trade hundreds of years ago. Supply of sugar was hard, and while its quite abundant now, i think its hard to argue that people don’t still exert a massive demand pull for the product in a multitude of forms.

    The demand for sugar was so high in France during Napoleon’s reign that when the British essentially cut off the French from the sugar fields of the Carribean, the French were under pressure to develop a substitute for the citizenry in the form of beet sugar, apparently a poor and expensive substitute. So where supply was cut off, the pressure of the demand side created an alternative product.

    Time to out myself here, i’m not impartial in this discussion. I may have asked my partner to stop in at the shops to grab biscuits for a sweet snack. My brain demanded sweetness, and I delivered… well, my partner delivered…

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• AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Bullshit article that tries to sneak in the usual anti immigrant, anti densification bullshit

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  • Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gonna need some examples from the text where he’s being sneaky and not just trying to represent reality in a highly politicised (cheers murdoch cunts) conversation. Alan Kohlers not known for being rich in those sentiments.

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    • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He clearly thinks that being the 859th-least-dense city in the world is bad, or at least an opportunity to be denser, but a lot of people would say it’s just fine. One of the world’s densest cities is Giza, in Egypt, where 4.4 million people squeeze into 98 square kilometres, not much larger than the size of Sydney’s Parramatta, where fewer than 300,000 people live.

      Maybe not so much sneaky as blatant. Going from the density of Australia to Giza is a bullshit comparison.

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