Did something change recently with how Mastodon displays content from Lemmy / the threadiverse?

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨otter@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨fediverse@lemmy.world⁩

Twice in the past fews days, I’ve gotten a reply from a Mastodon user complaining that I should have put the direct link to an article.

On Lemmy I posted the direct link to the article as usual
On their Mastodon feed, I appear as a Mastodon user that posted a link to a Lemmy thread

It seems that threadiverse posts are being seen by more mastodon users now, which is great, but maybe the formatting could use some improvements?

The complaints:

I know Mastodon got “quote posts” recently, is that related to this change?

Is Mastodon also getting a “group” view? That might be the best solution to the problem

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schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I looked at the two complaints you linked to and at how those threads seem to be displayed on these users’ instances:

sfba.social/…/115267196743748430

mas.to/@otters_raft@lemmy.ca/115283224174559468

That looks the same as it has always looked, to the best of my knowledge. I’ve gotten at least one similar complaint before, from a Mastodon user who didn’t understand what they were looking at when they got a Lemmy post in their timeline. So I think the answer to your question is no, nothing changed, either it is a coincidence that you got two such complaints within a few days, or what actually changed is that your posts have (for whatever reason) become more visible on Mastodon.
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Auster@thebrainbin.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Linked Mastodon posts redirect back to lemmy.ca son can't check, but going by the intro, it's something I've been noticing, when I boost a post on Mbin, Mastodon displays as you described, at most including the image as attachment, and that despite of the original post's instance.

However, maybe something like what Misskey instances do would be a good solution? For example:
https://nijimiss.moe/notes/01K5T7RE2G147ZRBSZ4GDHS3NR
(For https://thebrainbin.org/m/auster_info_dumps/t/1095421)
(Just don't like the links appearing again as attachments at the bottom)

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julian@activitypub.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
@otter@lemmy.ca perhaps the quote posts are not related but some other changes bundled in that version release are?

Can you share the instance that user was on? It's worth checking out how their instance sees your post.

Mastodon did improve some non-Note handling characteristics, so it could be related!

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- otter@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  For sure, I’ll also edit them into the post
  
  Example 1:
  
  My post: lemmy.ca/comment/19153240
  
  How they see it: sfba.social/…/115267196743748430
  
  Example 2:
  
  My post: lemmy.ca/comment/19202083
  
  How they see it: mas.to/@otters_raft@lemmy.ca/115283224174559468
  
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flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

How they see it: sfba.social/…/115267196743748430

Do note that Mastodon forces a redirect to the original instance for non-local posts, here’s a direct link to the comment: sfba.social/@karlauerbach/115267230182946226

It seems that threadiverse posts are being seen by more mastodon users now, which is great, but maybe the formatting could use some improvements?

There’s actually some related (yet-to-be-merged) changes to this on the Mastodon side, add support for links in Attachments (this is how Lemmy and the link federate links).

I don’t think anything’s changed, just two users finding a post in a hashtag (Lemmy adds the community name as a hastag for posts). I’ve seen some masto users complain about this in the past on the #lemmy tag.

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- julian@activitypub.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thanks. Yes, this is just how Mastodon renders content from Lemmy and Piefed at the moment.
  
  Mastodon sees something that is not a Note, and says "I will treat it using a fallback mechanism. If it has a title, it is added to the top, I will add the URL back to the site at the bottom. If it has a summary, I will use that as the content"
  
  Note that it does not use content, that's why there's no actual content. This is why the link preview also links back to Lemmy, not to the article itself.
  
  @nutomic@lemmy.ml and @rimu@piefed.social can add this to their software, respectively, by populating summary. It can just be a copy of content, or it can be a summarization... or it could be the link to the article... anything goes really.
  
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  - flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    If it has a summary, I will use that as the content
    
    But isn’t that how Mastodon handles content warnings? Baffling that they’d do it like that frankly given that it prevents long-form content (when masto actually starts supporting that) from being CW’d.
    
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0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Lemmy devs have been ass about which “link” they should link to.

Their rss even points to the thread link in both link and comment tags, afaik.

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