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These obvious things are why solar power CO2/kWh estimates are not zero. And I personally think that counting these indirect costs should not be automatic and is even fraudulent in some cases. For instance, in the picture that this guy denounces talks about what pieces of tech are part of the jigsaw of a sustainable future. For these, indirect costs do not matter. For all intent and purpose, electric cars and photovoltaics have 0 g CO2/kWh of direct emission.
poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
This guy has a strange obsession with pointing out the obvious fact that pretty much everything requires mining and fossile fuel right now, but somehow that is only a problem with renewable energy in their view.
The big reason why things are like that is that fossile fuel based processes where always much cheaper than more sustainable electricity based ones. Only once we have cheap surplus electricity from renewables that will change. For example iron processing can be done very efficiently with electricity and not only with coal.
wolfyvegan@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
In theory, I agree with you. Just cross-posting this so that people see this perspective and how much the infrastructure needs to change. Whether those changes will happen is the real question.