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Firefox Finally Introducing Matroska / MKV Playback Support

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ardi60@reddthat.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Nightly-Matroska-MKV

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  • Zarxrax@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well, it took them long enough. The container has been around for over 20 years now.

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      WebM is just Mastroska with most features disabled that are not relevant to streaming and a mandated set of codecs, so basic Mastroska support would have been possible years ago, simply by accepting the Matroska MIME types.

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  • lemming741@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Me to handbrake for two decades: stop trying to make MKV happen! It’s not going to happen!

    Guess I owe them an apology

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  • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I didn’t know that was something that’s been available in Chrome. Also not entirely sure what I would use it for since I’ve mostly seen it with rips of Blu-ray movies and shows, never smaller files. I thought its main advantage was holding multiple video, audio, and data streams.

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    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s highly popular in the anime scene for its ability to contain original audio and dubs and a few subtitle tracks, including custom fonts for some of the subtitle formats that are feeling pretty special.

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      • Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Not that firefox actually supports any of those advanced sub formats lol (I’d be surprised if chrome did either though tbh)

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also not entirely sure what I would use it for since I’ve mostly seen it with rips of Blu-ray movies and shows, never smaller files. I thought its main advantage was holding multiple video, audio, and data streams.

      WebM shows that Matroska is excellent for streaming. It’s the same container, WebM just mandates a set of codecs (just as MP4 as an offshoot of MOV can theoretically hold non-MPEG codecs but nobody supports this in the real world). With formal Matroska support, something like combining a HEVC video track with an Opus audio would be possible.

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      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Could firefox directly receive from multicast, an mkv video stream with low latency ? (like sub 100ms ?)

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  • devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    After all this time.

    I was there before mp4 was a thing.

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  • biotin7@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hold up can someone please tell me what benefits MKV has over let’s say MP4 ?

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    • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Here is a pretty good write up on it. They aren’t that different but generally I think mkv is preferred in high quality since it can handle more tracks and more codecs.

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      More refined subtitle support (better timing, more flexibility in how they are presented and better timing) Complex chapter structure (think dvd menus and “bandersnatch” interactive movies and probably things nobody has thougth of doing because of lacks in the technology), segment linking (linking to a file and a timestamp, so you can reuse sections such as intros etc…) Arbitrary file support, to embed anything, text documents, subtitle font files, cover images, license information, client side storage High precision timestamps, rich metadata

      One great thing is it can be extended, so it’s future proof, one bad thing is, it can be extended, so of course Apple made extensions that only work on their shit

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      • biotin7@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Is MKV like OpenSource/Open-Standard ?

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    • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It supports more codecs and I believe can store more tracks compared to MP4. Whenever I download a high quality movie or tv show, especially if it has multiple audio tracks and subtitles to choose from, it is always packaged in .mkv

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It supports more complicated subtitles and menuing, more codec support (like a LOT more) lossless support, mode audio formats.

      It’s like they took MP4 and added in all the stuff that you needed to replicate a BluRay, then added in lossless audio.

      If you just want a movie with basic subtitles and audio, MP4 is fine. If you want to replicate newer stuff, MKV supports it.

      The real hot part of this is if you have a collection of high-quality video/audio and you’re streaming it to firefox, you’ll natively be able to do so without transcoding.

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  • vortexal@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I guess that’s cool but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a website that actually hosted MKVs. What are some websites that have MKVs?

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    • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Being able to direct stream content from jellyfin without needing to repackage on the fly to another container would be nice.

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  • UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Librewolf when

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    • veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      After Firefox, by definition.

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  • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ey, neat

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  • Geodad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’ve just been using the VLC plugin. 🤷‍♂️

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  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Meh, too little too late

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  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Does that mean we can finally multi-angle stream ?

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  • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    i am still gonna use MOV in obs if it’s not a tower PC

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  • mysticmartz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    When Ladybird is in Alpha I’ll be moving to that

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    • biotin7@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Because of MKV ?

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      • mysticmartz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        No

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