Looking for near equivalent alternatives

Submitted ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨nicgentile@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

I am looking to run a few root servers and my ideal was going to be Netcup’s RS units cause they have a good rep and EU & US choices aren’t bad. However, Netcup isn’t currently offering them in Manassas VA (US), which was a requirement for me to kick-start it.

My project is already into the final line, and this was a bit of a bombshell, so I have to figure out who else offers near equivalents for the same thing.

One thing that is key is backup and their Snapshots (Copy-On-Write) were a big deal for me as I am dealing with 3rd party data.

Who else can offer the same in both EU/US with the same storage options and so on?

Appreciated

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jogai_san@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
maybe blog.foxxmd.dev/…/rybbit-traefik-private-dashboar… this?

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- nicgentile@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  An analytics tool?
  
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  - jogai_san@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sorry, wrong thread
    
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solrize@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Hetzner Cloud has US locations and has snapshots, but you really want to power down the VM while a snapshot is in progress. I’m not sure what you mean about copy on write but snapshots and mirrors aren’t the same thing, and maybe what you really want is database replication. I believe (not sure) that Hetzner has a service for that, though by definition you’re no longer self-hosted with that approach. I don’t think you have much control over hardware assignment with their cloud servers, and maybe that’s not great. It depends your requirements I guess.

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- nicgentile@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Had considered Hetzner, not going down that route. If only Scaleway had services in the US. Well, their snapshots are marked as copy on write, so my assumption is that for every write, there is replication somewhere.
  
  Check their website.
  
  www.netcup.com/en/server/…/rs-1000-g11-iv-12m#rs-…
  
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  - solrize@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s not clear to me what they mean by that. The definition of a snapshot is that it’s static, so you can roll back to it. If it’s automatically updated all the time, it’s a mirror. The same with backups in general. The most common use of a backup is restoring a file that you deleted by accident. If the deletion is immediately propagated to your mirror, you can’t use the mirror that way.
    
    What exactly do you want? Maybe something like Ceph replication? Hetzner at one point offered that. I don’t know if they still do. Same with OVH.
    
    What’s wrong with Hetzner? I’ve generally found it better than Scaleway.
    
    Maybe go on lowendspirit.com and ask there.
    
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  - olivier@lemmy.fait.ch ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    their snapshots are marked as copy on write, so my assumption is that for every write, there is replication somewhere.
    
    I might be wrong here, but my understanding is that their snapshots are the kind we find in modern filesystems (ZFS/BTRFS/…) : that is a point-in-time kind of functionnality, where a file will be duplicated (and the original version then will only belong to the snapshot) only when it is written to. This is just the way snapshots are implemented here - and a rather common way of doing it efficiently - not a reliability feature.
    
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