I get the idea of instances, like you can make your own and this is good for privacy. But some lemmy instances are much more popular and this in fact makes it another Reddit. If there are separate instances for niche topics, why not make it another community inside a larger instance?
What is the need for so many instances?
Submitted 1 year ago by t_uxio@discuss.tchncs.de to fediverse@lemmy.world
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cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 1 year ago
[deleted]luthis@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Brilliant explanation.
~Fuck spez~
eleitl@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Your profile is also public. An instance with few 10 subscribers erases much of the information.
LachlanUnchained@lemmyunchained.net 1 year ago
Lemmy is a federated social network, similar to Mastodon, where anyone can create and run their own instance. This means it’s not centrally controlled by one entity. The reasons for having many instances include:
1. Decentralization: This reduces the power of any single entity over the entire network and prevents any central point of failure. If one instance goes down, others are unaffected. This design also helps resist censorship because content moderation is handled individually by each instance.
2. Community autonomy: Each instance can form its own unique community with its own rules and norms. This can promote diversity of thought and freedom of expression, as different communities can have different standards and policies.
3. Privacy and security: Having separate instances can provide a higher degree of privacy and security. The admin of an instance only has access to data from their instance, not the entire network.
Regarding the concern of popular instances becoming like Reddit, it’s worth noting that decentralization inherently provides a counterbalance. If an instance becomes too dominant or its policies become unpopular, users can migrate to or create a new instance. In the end, the federated nature of Lemmy allows for a much more democratic and user-driven online community.
LastoftheDinosaurs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I usually ask ChatGPT to not include the bullet points. Addressing every point is also a clear tell ;)
VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 1 year ago
As a language model, I like to
- add bullet points
- address every point
LachlanUnchained@lemmyunchained.net 1 year ago
Nah. I like the bullet points. Clear tell us always the opening sentences.
pbaesse@ursal.zone 1 year ago
@LastoftheDinosaurs @fediverse @LachlanUnchained very true hoHOho
mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 year ago
If an instance becomes too dominant, users actually love it.
Lemmy.world :)
OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
In addition to what the others have said, we’ve lost some big and popular instances (Vlemmy, FMHY and others) along with the communities they had. Also, with the 2 biggest (lemmy.world and lemmy.ml) coming under attack every week, some users want to be on a smaller instance that’s under the radar.
Finally, people want to choose an instance that fits their interests/beliefs. I chose mine mainly for what they don’t allow and who they’re defederated from, but to each his own.
ComradeSpood@lemmyunchained.net 1 year ago
I chose mine because it’s one of the very few that gives the users decision making power by allowing them to vote on decisions.
Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Think of it like email.
Every email provider has different pros and cons. You might have switched from Hotmail to Gmail so that you dont have to delete emails every week because you’ve run out of space again. You might later switch to protonmail so that you could get some more privacy instead.
Likewise, you can choose an instance based on your specific needs and preferences. If you want to be in a communist echo chamber, there’s more than one instance for you. If you care about something else, there’s probably an instance for you somewhere out there. If not, you can make a special instance for all the furries who enjoy playing polo, eating banana pizza and listening to trip hop.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Some people want instances which align with them ideologically
fugepe@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We know who are those vocal crazy minorities, don’t we
luthis@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
This is one of my favourite things about lemmy. It’s resilient. You can always find new places, new communities, new posts on different instances. It really feels like traversing the web like in Reboot. I like so many instances.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Part of it is figuring out how to pay for all the servers. If we have 1000 instances instead of 100, more people pay a smaller amount for server maintenance. If everyone uses a single instance, who pays for it?
OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
That’s especially a problem since people absolutely don’t want to see ads, they don’t like the idea of a coin/reward system, and generally don’t contribute (less than 1 out of 20 ppl donate, and that’s being generous)
teuto@lemmy.teuto.icu 1 year ago
For what it’s worth, once you get to the single user level, the cost is pretty much nil assuming you have the hardware and domain already
cakeistheanswer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
We still haven’t really sussed out whether the dominant model is going to be general or specific focus instances, or even brought whether niche boards want to just be in charge of the content and not the users, since your credentials are good everywhere you’re federated.
Right now your ‘all’ feed is a combination of all the various places users on your instance have trawled, but they’re not totally the same everywhere.
We could see curated instance feeds with some instance muting from admins that make it function like a public RSS, per user even if it gets that granular. Skies kind of the limit once you understand it’s limited to insecure communication, the most anonymity you have here is in a crowd.
i_lost_my_bagel@seriously.iamincredibly.gay 1 year ago
Funny domain
someguy3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Afaik it’s to spread out the load.
A single instance means they have all the load, just like Reddit.
eleitl@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Load leveling. Specific policies. More control and performance, if it’s your own instance.
samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Basically when there are many instances, a loss of one is not a big issue
aelwero@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Actual answer? Who knows…
MY answer, because instance operator/server can establish whatever rules they want, and aren’t beholden to a CEO, shareholders, or any other entity that might want to put 50 ads on your feed for every post…
Because it’s open source and the community apparently wants it to stay that way.