Submitted 1 year ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
I am still waiting for a day of no frills EVs or just more no frills cars in general. Less crap in the way to repair and whatnot. But all I see passing car lots are bigger vehicles that look like they have so much stuff in them.
We need like a Kirkland brand EV. Unless I am an idiot and people don’t want stuff like that.
I love the tech in my car. The adaptive cruise control, heads up display, android auto, auto wipers, auto brights, lane keep assist, and blind spot detection in my Mazda are all used every single time I drive. Understand why people wouldn’t want some of those things but I love it.
The tech is great, but for a lot of people it’s not worth thousands of dollars – especially when you run the (potentially small) risk of paying twice if it breaks outside of warranty.
They do it to disguise the cost. When the first leaf came out the battery was the majority of the cost of the car… everything that was added on to make it a ‘car’ was cheap by comparison. So they added frills to get people to pay that much… and it worked.
Even now, when batteries are considerably cleaner, they’re a decent part of the cost - everyone wants a car that can do 300 miles… that dictates a certain size and weight (given current energy densities) and the companies have to build a car around that.
Effectively if you made a kirkland car with few features it’d cost almost as much as the current EV crop and nobody would buy one to the lack of features. About cheapest so far is the MG ZS, and that’s a £30k car.
I bought my first ev 8 months ago. 13k miles already and no maintenance cost yet. Absolutely love it and find any excuses to drive it.
I drove a gas guzzling 350hp coupe before jumping to a EV. I had my doubts but I’m glad I made the switch. It’ll be awhile until we get a Costco like vehicle (my bet is Toyota or Hyundai will come out with something huge).
My commute is 70 miles a day and it’s a blast. I drive it on weekends just because it’s fun. I don’t have any frills on it, just a screen I look at once in a while.5
But car company profit margins! The last couple of years have kinda been great for a lot of car manufacturers, increasing prices, basically only having higher end models in stock (mostly because they generally take longer to move, which they began to en mass when the car market went to hell), and basically moving directly to evs moving forward, which are inherently more expensive (at least for now). Personally, I kind of like the idea of phevs like the 2nd Gen Chevy volt and the new prius, as they make the transition to electric easier and are generally cheaper to manufacture. Then after more charging stations are available, moving more and more to evs. Not trying to be a gas shill, but I just can't see getting an ev right now because of the whole charging mess (the only mostly reliable stations I've heard of are the Tesla ones) and the cost.
The Bolt EV or the Leaf are just that.
Sadly I had to wait 10 months, my dealer got a single SV Plus for me
Toyotas EV is like that. ID4 is fairly basic. Chevy Bolt.
The BZ4X that was recalled because the wheels fall off ? Has that been rereleased yet ?
I like this one that climbs Swiss mountains
Tesla owner ≠ muskonite
The cars literally changed the way they evaluate safety when the model s was released when i read about them in car and driver magazine many moons ago
Im writing this only in response to your edit. Because it was getting unearable on reddit any time someone mentioning they own a tesla and enjoy it, the people who hate elon come brigade and just shit all over someone because they bought a car they liked and admited they own one.
Can we just please remember that everything isnt always connected the way you assume it is. Give people the benefit of the doubt, and only call out what is stated and not just tangentially connected?
Ive been enjoying lemmy so far, and i have hope it will not become the cesspool other spaces have, but it wont happen if we cant agree to disagree and let other people be without accusing them of everything you fear or just hate without them indicating they are what you fear or hate.
Your comment is worthless.
I never conflated Tesla owners with Elmo fans. In fact, I exclusively said Tesla owners who regret their purchase.
Don’t come after me with your bullshit when you’re actively inventing the boogeyman you’re saying is chasing you.
Recall for a Tesla: send an ota update and the user doesn’t even notice it
Recall for other brands: send a snail mail letter asking to give the car to a dealer for an unspecified amount of time in order to do a replacement
Tesla build quality is horrible.
American made sure. The Shanghai cars are solid.
I got lucky. My '23 M3 base from TX must have been made on a Tuesday or something because I didn’t get the panel gaps or other issues that everyone complains about. So far it has just been an appliance-like car.
toyota.
Toyota the least?!?!
ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s also worth, I think, pointing out that, for example, Lincoln has the 6th (I think) most recalled model as well as (again, I think) the second to least recalled model. So it shows that, in a lot of cases, it really depends on the model of the car rather than the manufacturer.
Except Tesla. 100% of Teslas current lineup is in the top 5.
EhList@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Teslas are poorly assembled
drdabbles@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Mostly assembled. Teslas are mostly assembled. 😆
Paradox@lemdro.id 1 year ago
Panel gaps that make the grand canyon look narrow
Z4rK@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s mostly digital recalls solved by software updates over the air.