Startup formed by former Intel engineers and backed by AMD legendary chip designer wants to become the Arm of RISC-V

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• ZephyrXero@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No thanks, we don’t need another middle man. RISC V doesn’t need people paying licensing fees for it

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  • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s an extremely shitty metaphor. But the ISA is the only open part. There already are and will be designs that will be licensed.

    The beauty is, let them build highly performant risc-v cores to license. Everyone will win. As long as they don’t shove poison pill proprietary bits in it. If they do then no one should license or design around them. Because it will just create bugs and incompatibility. But if they want to be the go to designer based on the quality of their designs and not proprietary lock in. Let’s go.

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  • remotelove@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As others have stated: riscv.org/about/

    Now, there would still be a metric fuck ton of money involved. Chip fabs aren’t cheap, engineers aren’t cheap and project management isn’t cheap.

    The open architecture means there is already a framework and R&D costs will also be limited. And yeah, no licensing fees like we already covered.

    Without diving deep into RISC V, just because there is an open architecture doesn’t mean that there are machines capable of manufacturing whatever specs are require. Licensing fees for machining could be pure insanity.

    Still, a few million (or billion?) is normal when it comes to making this stuff.

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  • MouldyCat@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Would that be a risk? Isn’t the whole point of RISC V that its ISA is open and free to use? That’s not the case for ARM or Intel’s x86 architecture.

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• sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  What does it mean, the “Arm” of RISC-V ?

  Is there an open source version of Arm?

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  • MouldyCat@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think they mean that ARM became dominant by widely licencing its RISC architecture to pretty much anyone. This startup wants to make RISC V designs and licence them to various chip manufacturers - so they won’t be in the business of making chips themselves, just the design.

    But as long as they are RISC V chips, then they would run the same software as any other RISC V chips.

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    • cmhe@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But as long as they are RISC V chips, then they would run the same software as any other RISC V chips.

      Not necessarily, RISC-V is permissibly licensed, so they could add proprietary extensions, that would make the binaries or even compilers only work with their implementation of the RISC-V ISA.

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