Submitted 3 weeks ago by ntn888@lemmy.ml to selfhosted@lemmy.world
For folks that are unable to port forward on the local router (eg CGNAT) I made this post on doing it via a VPS. I’ve scoured the internet and didn’t find a complete guide.
another option is to use Cloudflare’s tunnels. it’s free, I use it all the time. really great.
I’ve set up some tunnels. Works nice but then the voices came. ‘Why would you trust a company like Cloudflare with all your data?’ ‘Why rely on this one company for all your services?’
Nearly a year into my selfhosting journey and I’m more confused than ever.
tl;dr: classic convenience/privacy. depends on your threat model. surely better than Google. models of zero trust will help.
That’s a great question, that I have asked myself before too. It doesn’t have one answer, and any one would make their own choices based on their own respective threat model. I’ll answer you with some of my thoughts, and why I do use their services.
I’ll take as an example my usage of NextCloud, coming as a replacement to Google Drive for example.
let’s break up the setups:
It’s oversimplified, but to the point: In Google’s setup, you have control of 0 out of three things.
In NextCloud’s setup,
From just this look, NC is clearly better off. now, it’s not perfect, and each one will do their own convenience vs privacy deal and decide their deal.
If you deploy some sort of e2ee, the severity level of CF drops even more, because they’re exposed to less data. specifically for NC they do do e2ee, but each solution to its own. nextcloud.com/encryption/ this goes as an example for zero trust model. if you handle the encryption yourself (like using an e2ee service), you don’t have to trust the medium your data is going through. like the open internet.
Yeah it’s a popular choice for various things. But wouldn’t it be against TOS using it for p2p and that amount of traffic?
gotta admit I haven’t read the ToS, but I didn’t encounter any problems. I’m streaming GBs of music via the tunnel and it still works. p2p I didn’t try, but I don’t really see a reason to?
Hey, can you maybe add some description for what the iptables entries do? I have a similar setup with a lot less iptables rules that works well for me. But I’m not an expert in networking, and am now worried that I might be missing something that can leak my home IP.
Thanks for the feed back. I started out with that post I referenced in my article, which had fewer entries. It didn’t work. Caveat was although the online port checkers were reporting the port as open, it was not actually making through the tunnel!
I actually solved it by asking chatgpt!! I put in the suggestions and it worked. I’m also no expert on creating iptables, but once it was in place it seemed self explanatory.
I ran netcat as client-server to test it actually worked.
Idk man, it seems pretty irresponsible to me to write a blogpost with stuff that you got from ChatGPT without understanding it. People will assume that if you wrote a blogpost on this then you know what you’re doing. ChatGPT gets stuff wrong all the time, and we’re talking about firewall configuration here. If it misconfigured some stuff it could leave you and your readers vulnerable to all kinds of shit.
In this case it seems to me that (luckily) there’s just a bunch of redundant routing, but the next time it could be leaking your and your readers’ torrent traffic out of the VPN tunnel, leaving you vulnerable to legal repercussions for piracy.
Please don’t authoritatively post stuff that you got from the automatic bullshit generator without understanding it.
I took a look at it. From what I understand, some of those lines in your setup is redundant. And the final product seems to do the exact same job as mine. In any case, if it works, it works.
Nice, I recently went through the same struggle of setting up this configuration based on that LinuxServer post. My main nitpick on this is that automating the ip route configuration for the qBittorrent container is a pretty important step which is not explained in the post. Leaving any manual steps in any Docker setup is pretty bad practice.
Since you’re using LinuxServer’s QBT image a good way to do this is to make use of their standard custom init scripts. You can just mount a script with the ip route commands to /custom-cont-init.d/my-routes.sh:ro on the container and it will be run automatically on each startup.
Another nitpick is that the PostDown commands in the wireguard configs are useless since you’re running them in Docker.
Thanks for the addition. It’s also mentioned in that original blog post I linked in the article.
Yes that’s how I’m automating it, and it’s noted in the blog I highlighted. Your point about post down does make sense 😕
I haven’t read your post, but I set this up a few years ago after finding this post: golb.hplar.ch/2019/01/expose-server-vpn.html
Oh cool. I couldn’t find any info on doing this. And struggled lots at I don’t understand Iptables
PunkiBas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the nice write-up, saving it in case I find myself behind CGNAT in the future.