Lead dev of grapheneos is extremely toxic in communication. I don’t trust someone like that developing the software running on a phone.
GrapheneOS now officially supports Pixel 9, 9 Pro, and 9 Pro XL | GrapheneOS is a private, secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility, developed as a non-profit open source project
Submitted 2 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://9to5google.com/2024/08/26/grapheneos-now-officially-supports-pixel-9-9-pro-and-9-pro-xl/
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deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 2 months ago
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Honestly, a lot of lead devs in fantastic FOSS software have pretty limited patience. I’ve read plenty of that guy’s discourse, and while I think he could be more diplomatic, I don’t see any reason to suspect he’s doing anything malicious with the project.
I’m personally totally fine using GrapheneOS. If you aren’t, there are plenty of alternatives.
deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 2 months ago
“Limited patience” is understandable, but the behavior of the GrapheneOS dev is completely different. I’ve personally interacted with them not too long ago, and nothing has changed since the public accusations from a year ago.
Kopy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
airglow@lemmy.world 2 months ago
vga@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I know Daniel somewhat, and calling him extremely toxic is just wrong. He is and has always been rather bad at communication and is clearly on the spectrum in some way. Technically a genius person, but perhaps doesn’t have the right set of qualities to lead things.
Very good decision from him to withdraw from social media.
deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 2 months ago
is clearly on the spectrum in some way
This is not an excuse to behave the way he does.
Very good decision from him to withdraw from social media
He hasn’t, still on github, still on HN.
nutsack@lemmy.world 2 months ago
as long as they do good work i don’t give a shit what they think
shiftymccool@programming.dev 2 months ago
So? Bad people can make good things. We should all stop using Linux because Torvalds is a dick?
mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
might be toxic, but the os is brilliant
MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 2 months ago
[deleted]deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 2 months ago
Louis Rossman’s video describes his behavior in public spaces accurately: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4To-F6W1NT0
taaz@biglemmowski.win 2 months ago
I am currently in the market for a new mobile phone (the current’s one battery is basically dead and because of security patches now being about 2 years old I have to replace it whole instead of just getting the battery replaced again).
Pixel with GrapheneOS has been my number one choice for some time but…
- there is no (privacy friendly & legal) replacement for Google Play Protect. My banking app won’t work without it as well as one other app I kind of need too.
- I am also just too used to having a phone in the 250-300 EUR range in the sense that I don’t have to care about it that much.
It’s a “consumable” product for me. Loosing/drowning it is not a big deal, where drowning 800 euros is just hard to justify no matter how much money I make.
I will probably just get the OnePlus Nord 4 instead because of their pledge to do 6 years of updates.
NoDignity@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m not sure about over in Europe but around here the trick to an affordable Pixel is to just buy last years model since you can usually find them lightly used or even new in the $300 - $400 range and updates are only incremental anyway and since they get 7 years of updates now it should be good for quite a while.
For google play protect yeah thats a bummer, I just use my banks website but I don’t know if European banks allow that.
Personally though I love Graphene OS it turned my phone from a device I hated due to anxitey I feel around corporate surveillance into a device I genuinely like again.
Staubsaugernasenmann@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
i can especially relate to the last part, it’s so freeing to feel in control of my phone!
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m very close to pulling the trigger on Graphene. One question though - usually when I try open source / secure alternatives to some popular software the UI is janky and super old looking.
Is Graphene like this with their custom apps / UI stuff? Will I notice? Or is it identical to the stock OS UI design?
rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 2 months ago
- All of my banking apps work, I have 6 of them.
- You can buy an older Pixel, 5 or 6. They’re still great.
Laborer3652@reddthat.com 2 months ago
I’m still rocking my 4a5g and honestly its great. Don’t really want to get rid of it tbh but I’ll probably pickup an 8a sometime next year. Don’t really like giving Google money but they make good phones.
pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Buy used, and/or buy an “a” model.
GrapheneOS is clearly the ideal ROM/OS, but alternatively there is another privacy and security centric ROM that supports a lot more devices, with the trade-off being it’s not GrapheneOS.
Check out DivestOS and it’s supported device list to see if that’s a better fit for you.
As far Play Project and other anticonsumer “security attestation” features, some bank apps will work fine, what others won’t.
Does their website provide PWA support?
sugartits@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Just buy an older supported device if grapheneos is important to you. Something like a 6 pro would be fine.
NoDignity@lemmy.world 2 months ago
To anyone reading this a 6 is a great pick but its worth knowing that the 7 year update promise only began with the pixel 8 so if you buy a 6 in 2024 it probably only has about 2 years of updates left. However they are only like $150 used I think so the value is probably there even if you only get 2 years of use out of it.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 months ago
7a was the sweet spot for me, even if $300 is frankly a lot by my measure. But I think it was a worthy investment for me.
Would definitely not get a pro since the 7a is already on the edge of what I can use with one hand. Same for 7 but downplayed, I didn’t opt for this one because it has a glass back.
VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
300€ is not disposable for me… People are used to buy phones over 800€ but 300€ is already quite a price
Persen@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You can replace the battery easily and there are roms like calyx and divestos, which support bl relocking.
x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Battery life was a dealbreaker for me
rxbudian@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
[please… something other than Pixel…]
Pixel 9
Staubsaugernasenmann@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
The problem is that (as far as i know) only pixels fulfill their security requirements, for example that the bootloader is not only unlockable but also lockable. But I also would like to have more devices supporting it
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Fairphones should be supported imo. CalyxOS relocks the bootloader and they supported the FP5 right after launch.