Privacy services and non privacy payments options

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• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Crypto isn’t as private as you might think.

  But I do agree with what you’re saying.

  Using a prepaid credit card, which was paid for using cash, is probably your best bet.

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  • dukethorion@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bitcoin isn’t private. Monero should be what you use for anonymous/private payments.

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    • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Monero

      I know of Monero, but haven’t used it. How are funds added to the Monero account?

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  • nnullzz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I used to use the prepaid approach a lot, but recently it seems like some companies are rejecting them. Mainly seeing it happen with subscription based services.

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    • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s crazy. Don’t they want money? LOL

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  • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, that’s true for most of them, they all are basically useless. It’s only worth to use private crypto, like Monero, that is designed actually with privacy in mind.

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  • gamedeviancy@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In my country it isn’t an option. I can only use virtual revolut prepaid or gift cards.

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• shortwavesurfer@monero.town ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  monerica.com. your welcome.

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• RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Depends on what you are using them for.

  E.g., if you maintain a Proton email account because you don’t want your emails mined for businesses to advertise at you, then you give very little info away by your bank finding out about the purchase.

  If you use it because you’re engaging in activity that could be considered illegal, then your bank knowing about the purchase is probably the least of your problems if someone starts digging. Mysudo has to respond to a court order just like your bank and has access to all of the same PII

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• ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  but I don’t know if it makes sense if my bank knows I’m using it anyway so they can sell that info to advertisers, gov, etc.

  Yeah it’s not ideal, but it’s still much better because these services won’t give access to your data if they can avoid it, and then data that is encrypted is not useful when given out

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• pound_heap@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  TLDR: “privacy” services can’t be bothered and you shouldn’t too if you are not doing illegal stuff.

  These “privacy-oriented” services are businesses that need to earn money, not scare away potential clients and avoid legal issues. Accepting cash or crypto is a risk for legal and accounting reasons. They just don’t think it’s worth it.

  Now, to link a particular activity on a particular service with you via your payment is not a trivial task. Government can do it, but it really matters if you think you are or will be targeted by it. Data miners can correlate bank payment with an account at a service provider only if both bank and service provider sell or leak data, which is less likely if you are using a privacy a oriented service.

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  • gamedeviancy@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So in your opinion is not worth to use any these online services and better go offline?

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    • pound_heap@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, I didn’t say that. It depends on your risk model. If you are an average Joe don’t worry that services are charging your credit card. If you are hiding from government then better use less online services, and if you must then find ones that accept crypto

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