Comment on Why are so many leaders in tech evil?

• Omgpwnies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You don’t work with them, you work for them. The only capitalists in capitalism is the ownership class, the rest are just slaves to the system under which they are born.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But you don’t stay working for them. You move on. Then they find no one wants to work for them and they spend their whole time complaining they can’t get the staff. Psychos are bad news for a company long run.

    There is a book about it, “Snakes in Suits”.

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    • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Psychos aren’t the ‘scream in your face and belittle you’ type of people, it’s the silver-tongued devils that talk about family values and the environment and how their thing helps people, all while making backroom deals and lobbying governments to pass laws in their favour or any other number of shit. Psychos will appear on the surface as the nicest goddamn person you ever met, and you won’t think otherwise until you find the knife in your back.

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      • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think they are more like Musk. It’s obvious if you look he’s a wrong’un. It’s not possible to stay lying about yourself, especially when the ego get boosted so much. The mask slips.

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    • kent_eh@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then they find no one wants to work for them

      At which point the board fires them, they add another golden parachute to their collection, and they get hired to be CEO at another company for a few years until the cycle repeats.

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      • Omgpwnies@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Precisely. Maybe small companies have decent owners, but anything with a value of over a few million is likely to be run by one of these types.

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      • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m sure that happens. But this why you look how long people have worked at places and get a reference.

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• oxomoxo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Psychopath is bring used in a colloquial way here and not an exact diagnosis. Even if they are actual psychopaths they are known for being very charismatic and there are a lot of sadomasochistic people in the world who are motivated by punishment.

  Further the people who work directly for these people want to be them, so they see it as just part of the process.

  Another factor is money, it’s a motivator. Those who work lower down the org chart can often be desperate, struggling to get by and get used to the punishment, convincing themselves that it would be worse elsewhere.

  The Idea that life is short and work just isn’t worth it comes from a place of privilege and the luxury of time for self reflection. Something not everyone can afford when one lives in survival mode.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is tech workers. They won’t be in survival mode. They are highly employable and always have options. I think most people outside tech will have other employment options. Though if you don’t, your screwed in multiple other ways on top of has bosses.

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    • oxomoxo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Tech companies are operated like any other company and have a wide range of employees. Also not every tech position is highly employable. I know from personal experience in tech middle management that many employees are very easy to replace and have very common skill sets that are oversaturated in the market. Many many tech workers are absolutely operating in survival mode in 2024.

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      • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve been in tech for over twenty years. About half of it in games (first half) and half Linux embedded stuff. What I’ve seen is it’s hard to recruit good people. The first job to get is the hardest as you have no experience or references. I know I’ve been lucky, falling in my feet multiple times, but so has everyone I entered industry with. A few now have their own companies. I’ve had to let a few people go myself and I hate it, but I knew they’d be fine, and they have been.

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