Comment on European Commission cuts funding support for Free Software projects

• endofline@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  clunky

  Thunderbird + kleopatra? K-9 + OpenKeyChain ( android )? Where did you have issues?

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I went through an exercise with a few other developers to see if we could use it for transferring sensitive information. I was using Windows w/WSL2 at the time (now I’m full Linux for my work machine), and I believe the other two were on Macs.

    Our conclusions were that while it might be useful alongside other ways, it was too clunky to use in general. One of the more useful things we could do is have developers sign git commits.

    The email plugins for various clients make it easy to mistakenly think you’re sending an encrypted email. When even technical people are making this mistake, then it’s a big issue for widespread adoption. The plugins also don’t always send it in a format that works for every client out there. We found the most consistent way was to encrypt the message in a file and attach it to the email.

    The plugins don’t work with modern webmail, anyway.

    Public key servers are unreliable. They’re largely maintained by volunteers, so this is understandable, but we couldn’t recommend that the company use them. If we wanted reliability, we’d need to run our own internal keysever.

    Then there’s the key signing meetings we’d need to have. Even technical people find these a bother. These are, unfortunately, inherent to the web of trust model.

    I really wanted to make it work. The decentralized nature of the web of trust–as opposed to the hierarchical model of TLS–is appealing to me personally. But this shit hasn’t gotten better in 20 years.

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    • endofline@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The email plugins for various clients make it easy to mistakenly think you’re sending an encrypted email.

      Ok. Now I know what’s the issue but this is not the problem with gpg. Nah, gpg integration with thunderbird is so flawless that it clearly says when it’s encrypting when not. Also you can see the raw email content and then you see whether it’s plaintext or ciphertext. I’m using thunderbird with gpg very often so I know how it works nicely with gpg

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      • frezik@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s a problem with the gpg ecosystem. No matter what code is actually responsible, it prevents us from using it in practice. We’re not going to switch our whole email system and clients just for this.

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    • aodhsishaj@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We implemented this at work using Hashicorp Vault for PKIs and a dovecote smtp server to pass IMAP from whatever client our endusers were using

      doc.dovecot.org/…/mail_crypt_plugin/

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