Comment on Quick-Start Guide to Fediverse Governance Decisions

• souperk@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Dopamine received, initiating hyperfocus protocol!

  As a rule of thumb, we’ve observed that a team of 5 trained moderators appears to provide ample coverage and redundancy for servers of about 1,000 active users

  That’s a fascinating bit of information. I would expect 5 moderators to provide coverage for more users. I am wondering how they came up with that statistic (will update the comment if I find an answer).

  Remember that offliine/IRL community management experience can be just as important as online experience

  Interesting idea, wondering what’s the IRL presence of the fediverse…

  If you’re building toward participatory or democratic governance, consider establishing a proposal and voting system (some teams we spoke with use Loomio, but multiple options exist) for major policy decisions.

  That’s soooo important, I love when communities create polls to decide on policy changes.

  Avoid promoting brand-new members unless you already have a pre-existing relationship with them

  I have followed some discussion on multi-level hierarchies on the fediverse, wondering if there are any instance implementing that…

  Consider charging for accounts or offering paid memberships.

  Hell no!

  We hope there will be more resources available in the future, particularly tooling around legal compliance. This is one of the big infrastructural gaps we point out in our main report

  That’s a big issue, I would be interested in hosting an instance available to other people, but I don’t want to end up in jail and I lack the resources to make sure that won’t happen…

  That was an interesting read, it seems there is an in-depth analysis of the report here.

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  • rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What is the problem with paid accounts?

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    • souperk@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For context, I am the top donor at my instance, I recognize that there is a need for funds. BUT, I believe it’s important for the fediverse to be accessible to everyone regardless if they have the funds for that.

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      • rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But no one said about turning every instance into a paid one.

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    • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If other people want to pay and be paid, that's fine, but for a lot of people in the open source sphere it leaves a bit of a bad taste.

      Basically it becomes something very different once it's a product you're selling. I'm honestly not sure it's a good advice - your users will rightfully expect a lot more from you if they pay for the product, and you'll probably not make enough money for it to really make sense. So it'll be more work, more obligations, and monetary incentives won't be strong enough for it to make sense.

      Encouraging users to make donations to cover the cost of operation, on the other hand, makes all the sense in the world.

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      • rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The handful of paid customers I have on Communick are better than any “supporter” I had on my open source projects. They understand the value of their time, expectations are adjusted with proper communication and none of them act entitled just because they pay.

        I strongly believe that we need to change the general mentality and that charging a little bit from everyone is better than relying on few generous people to make up for freeloaders

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• SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s more like for instance admins rather than the developers of the server software itself. At least that’s how I understand it.

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  • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    By “building a Fediverse server” I meant exactly that, not software developers. (Thanks for pointing it out though - it means that my explanation was ambiguous. I’ll edit the above accordingly.)

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    • SorteKanin@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right, as a software developer itself, I equated “build” as “building” the software, not “building” the community or administration around an instance 😅

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      • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah, that explains it.

        It’s kind of funny because when I used the word “building” the first thing that came to my mind was the server as a house - like, you’re building a digital home for a bunch of people. So the idea was in the opposite direction as yours. Just language things.

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