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Comment on AT&T and Verizon have a beef with T-Mobile’s Starlink satellite service - The Verge

LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Starlink and T-Mobile, in a limited area that was approved by the FCC for testing. And at the end of that trial they are required to give the results to the FCC so AT&T and Verizon wouldn’t even need to say anything if it was going to cause interference the FCC would just stop it at the end of the trials. The fact that that didn’t happen and that they now feel the need to try and say it might interfere is proof that they are just stalling.

And again they are literally getting ready to roll out the exact same thing, based on the exact same technology, using the exact same frequencies. They literally just want time to catch up because they got caught slacking lol

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Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If that’s true, why do they need this exemption?

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- LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You could try actually reading? The article goes over why they want the exemption. Which is mainly that the fcc’s maximum transmit power for this particular band is both outdated and wildly over cautious. They argue that you can easily transmit with more power without creating any interference and that’s what the trial was demonstrating
  
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  - Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Specifically, AT&T’s technical analysis shows that SpaceX’s proposal would cause an 18 percent average reduction in network downlink throughput
    
    That kinda sounds like the opposite of what you’re saying?
    
    And the limit was regarding out of band emissions, not those within the allocated frequency.
    
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    LordKitsuna@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s true technical analysis does show the opposite, however it’s a technical analysis. AKA Engineers making educated guesses. Which is the reason the FCC allowed a limited test area to run actual trials to verify. And the fact that the FCC has not immediately shut it down implies that they have not been able to confirm what that technical analysis predicted.
    
    Don’t get me wrong I’m no big huge fan of starlink over here, but both AT&T and Verizon have a long standing history of competing through litigation rather than actual service so I’m inclined to give T-Mobile and starlink the benefit of the doubt here.
    
    When everyone was first getting new frequency opened up AT&T and Verizon fought over millimeter wave while T-Mobile mostly ignored it and went for the mid band 600-800mhz. This caused the T-Mobile to have an insane lead over actual 5G deployment you can now get good 5G speeds out in the middle of rural fuck nowhere because you’ll be on the 700 band 12.
    
    Meanwhile millimeter wave is still useless because a piece of rice paper will block the signal entirely so it only works in extremely extremely limited areas of town with direct line of sight and no obstacles to the Tower. So Verizon and AT&T started complaining to the FCC that T-Mobile has too much spectrum and they can’t possibly compete even though they made absolutely no attempt whatsoever during the initial bidding to get any mid-band.
    
    Now we see the same thing here, T-Mobile is getting ahead of everyone Verizon and AT&T are lagging behind they plan to roll out the exact same service, with the exact same frequencies, with the exact same technology, however they are still in the planning phase and starlink/t-mobile is just about ready to activate it so they are complaining
    
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