Logitech… the company whose 150 dollar mouse have double click issues months into the purchase?
Comment on Infamous $30 Logitech F710 called out in $50M lawsuit over Titan sub implosion
tal@lemmy.today 5 weeks agoI don’t see why the controller is a problem.
If you go out and custom-make a controller, it’s not likely going to be more reliable than anything that Logitech makes.
eskimofry@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yeah, but if you’re going to use a wireless controller, don’t fucking skimp and get some cheapo device, at least buy a goddamned 1st party controller. Not that MS/Sony don’t have lemons too, but Logitech controllers are like a half step from the crappy MadKatz controllers from my childhood.
This had to be a project costing somewhere in the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, and they’re trying to save $30 on an aftermarket controller?!? That’s the literal embodiment of Penny Wise, pound foolish.
bjorney@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
That’s only assuming the sub was running windows, where Xbox controllers work out of the box. On Linux there are no first party drivers, and Bluetooth support on the 1/S controllers simply didn’t exist at the time this happened. If it was an embedded system there would be no support whatsoever.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Huh what? Dual Shock 4 controllers are supported OOTB. With additional support via Userland software. XBox original controllers just work. Therws plenty of first party support.
bjorney@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I haven’t used dual shock so I can’t speak to that, but as far as Xbox 1/S controllers, there is no 1st party support - literally all the drivers are from some non-MS affiliated GitHub page. 360 controllers required the xpad driver as well - that isn’t 1st party support. Yes they work out of the box with steam if you are using a wired connection, but that’s because it’s going through steaminput (not 1st party either), and making the controls of the submarine dependent on being launched through steam is even more absurd. Gen 2 series 1/S controllers didn’t work via Bluetooth for a long time after they (silently) launched on most LTS Linux OSs due to the kernel missing requisite BLE functionality
notthebees@reddthat.com 5 weeks ago
iirc they mentioned the f710 constantly disconnected.
mp3@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Sounds about right from my experience with the F710.
x00z@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Even if it is the best built controller ever. It was wireless and should not have been used. In terms of safety it’s not something you want to solely rely on. As the article says: “every sub in the world has hardwired controls for a reason”. Logitech is not blamed for anything. It’s about OceanGate using this controller among many other questionable choices.
bjorney@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
theverge.com/…/us-navy-military-xbox-360-controll…
US Army used to spend $38,000 per controller until they found out Xbox controllers were better
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
That sounds like a great way to get malware!
JamesFire@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Do you regularly get malware from xbox controllers?
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Bad USB is ABSOLUTELY a vector for state sponsored hacking.
smartermsp.com/tech-time-warp-the-usb-drive-that-…
See also
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
Pretty nuts to see I got downvoted for this. This is cybersecurity 101 shit. Don’t plug untrusted USB devices into sensitive infrastructure.