Comment on Signal messenger blocked in Russia, says Roskomnadzor

• brrt@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I could put on my tinfoil hat and say if signal is blocked but telegram isn’t, maybe that means that telegram isn’t as secret as they make it out to be.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s open source. Look can up the encryption yourself.

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    • Varcour@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No need, all you have to do is read the whitepaper. they home brewed the encryption algorithm and nobody actually knows if it’s worth a damn. That’s not exactly a secret.

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        nobody actually knows if it’s worth a damn.

        After all these years, security researchers still don’t know if the encryption is any good?

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      • Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        And it isn’t even encrypted by default, you manually have to enable that. By default, all your plain text messages are stored on their servers.

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    • doodledup@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They don’t have reproducible builds afaik (unlike Signal). You can have a completely different code running on your phone than on GitHub.

      Besides, who is using Secret Chat anyways? All default chats and group chats are unencrypted.

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You can have a completely different code running on your phone than on GitHub.

        Just use the F-Droid version if there is any doubt.

        Besides, who is using Secret Chat anyways?

        Probably Russians who used Signal before.

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    • catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Can it be proven that that encryption is what’s used in practice?

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Just use the F-Droid version if there is any doubt.

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• lemmylommy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

    I was very explicitly referring to secret chats.

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