Comment on Can someone define "liberal" (in its use as an insult) for me?

• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  … everyone? hence my use of broadly? It has complete and utter ideological hegemony since like the 70s. If you study economics you study neoliberal economics and they don’t even bother specifying. All major political parties in the anglosphere and most of western Europe follow neoliberal ideology, even the green-left is largely neoliberal. There are basically no classical liberals left.

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  • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hmm, everyone I know, including very left leaning liberals I know who live in Hollywood, use liberal to represent actual liberal ideologies. They use Liberal (notice the capitalization) to represent neo-liberalism.

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    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To clarify my question. What do you mean ‘actually liberal’ ideologies?

      Like what are their thoughts on monetarism?private property? free association? private entities in markets? Debt and paying it, both private and state held?

      If they think that the state should provide the means of subsistence of the entire populus, that property should in general be held in common and private property is not sacred, that government entities in a market are often more effective than private and/or that business should be heavily regulated to serve common good, that debts should be cancelled when it is not realistic or fair to pay them etc. Or perhaps even further afield positions like questioning nation States, police, militaries and boarders… well, then they are not in fact liberals haha.

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      • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We mostly discuss social issues, and not economic policies. You sound like you know way more about this stuff than me, so I believe you.

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    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What do they see as different between neoliberalism and classical liberalism. Neoliberalism is mostly a post-Keynesian revitalisation of classical liberal economic positions updated with modern banking practices and globalisation.

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