That 0.18mb accumulates quickly on the server’s side if you have 10000 people trying to access that image at the same time. And there are millions it not billions of images on the net. Just because we have the resources doesn’t mean we should squander them…that’s how you end up with chat apps taking multiple gigabytes of RAM.
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redisdead@lemmy.world 3 months agoThe issue with jpegxl is that in reality jpeg is fine for 99% of images on the internet.
If you need lossless, you can have PNG.
“But JPEGXL can save 0,18mb in compression!” Shut up nerd everyone has broadband it doesn’t matter
Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
“I’m very small minded and am not important or smart enough to have ever worked on a large-scale project in my life, but I will assume my lack of experience has earned me a sense of authority” -Redisdead
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
While AVIF saves about 2/3 in my manga downloads. 10 GB to 3 GB. Btw, most comicbook apps support avif.
redisdead@lemmy.world 3 months ago
10 whole GB of storage? I understand now why you need such an ultimate compression technology, this is an insurmountable amount of data in these harrowing times where you can buy a flash card the size of a fingernail that can hold that amount about 25 times.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
That was an example, stop being a jerk.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Check how large your photos library is on your computer. Now wouldn’t it be nice if it was 40% smaller?
redisdead@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I have several TBs of storage. I don’t remember the last time I paid attention to it.
I don’t even use jpeg for it. I have all the raw pics from my DSLR and lossless PNGs for stuff I edited.
It’s quite literally a non issue. Storage is cheap af.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
It’s competing with webp
redisdead@lemmy.world 3 months ago
prevent jpg artifacts when downloaded multiple times
That’s not how downloading works
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Slightly higher in this thread you spout off complaining about pedantry, and here you are, being even more pedantic?
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
If you download and upload repeatedly you lose some data each time which is how we got jpeg memes
nutsack@lemmy.world 3 months ago
that happens when the site ls you upload it to re-encode the image
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What a dumb comment.
All of that adds up when you have thousands or tens of thousands of images. The compression used by JPEG-XL is very, very good. As is the decoding/encoding performance, both in single core and in multi-core applications.
It’s royalty free. Supports animation. Supports transparency. Supports layers. Supports HDR. Supports a bit depth of 32 compared to, what, 8?
JPEG-XL is what we should be striving for.
redisdead@lemmy.world 3 months ago
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Shut up simpleton.
There’s storage improvements. There’s server side considerations for storage, processing, and energy efficiency. There’s poor mobile data connections to contend with.
There’s better compression (I’m guessing you don’t like artefacts all over images, or other oddities stemming from bad compression?)
There’s still HDR support. There’s still the support for animations. There’s still support for transparency. There’s still support for layers.
Imagine being upset about the prospect of their being a vastly better image standard. Are you that desperate to be contrarian? Are you that desperate for attention?
lefaucet@slrpnk.net 3 months ago
You are totally right AND He’s making a valid point with his sarcastic joke of “shut up, nerd!”
“Nobody cares” means companies dont want to spend money to incorporate it if there’s no demand from consumers.
Most consumers have no idea what a jpeg even is.
It won’t be until Apple or someone brands it as an iPeg and claims you have a smol pp if your device doesn’t have it that folks will notice.
Im reminded of telling folks about shoutcasts and nobody cared. Then apple comes out with podcasts and everyone was suddenly excited about 8 year old streaming tech
redisdead@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I know my audience.