Comment on Elon Musk says Tesla is an AI company now. Here’s how plausible that is.

• darganon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tesla sells a shitload of batteries outside of their cars, so yeah I’d say they’re a battery company.

  They also sell the FSD software, which is “AI” so they do have an AI offering, for some definition of AI.

  Also, they sell solar panels, so they’re a solar panel company.

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  • breadsmasher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can I buy a battery for my EV from Tesla? Or do you mean their integrated home battery pack?

    Can I buy FSD for my vehicle even though it isn’t a tesla?

    Sure, they sell solar and a home battery pack.

    Has tesla ever advertised themselves as an Energy Company? Have they ever advertised themselves as anything other an automotive company until musk decided to say “We AI company now”?

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    • darganon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, their powerwall, and the Mega pack. Also yes, they brand themselves as an energy company. They make really, really big batteries. They also operate superchargers, which if you have experience with electric vehicles are streets ahead of any other charging networks.

      www.tesla.com/support/…/virtual-power-plant

      And no, they don’t sell FSD for other cars, but it’s still an AI product they are selling to people for money, right now. Maybe in the future they’ll license it out to other people, but that’s pure speculation on my part.

      I’m not sure if you can buy their car batteries individually, haven’t looked into it, although I have looked into buying a used one and using that as a power wall, as it would be cheaper for shitloads of storage.

      I don’t like Musk either, but you’re willfully ignoring quite a lot of what Tesla does and has accomplished because of their mouthpiece. Talking about it requires nuance because they have done a tremendous amount of good, while making some suboptimal changes.

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      • breadsmasher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And you are missing the nuance of musk literally saying “We are an AI company now”.

        Quoting musk from the article

        “We are an AI, robotics company; if you value us otherwise, the right answer is impossible to the questions being asked,” Musk told investors and journalists in April

        Pertinent point if you value us otherwise - if you value them as a car company, battery company, solar company, energy company the right answer is impossible to the questions being asked

        Literally his words. You are arguing to add nuance that musk literally stated wasnt there.

        He is saying “Tesla is an AI and robotics company” and to not value them any other way. I don’t understand how to make this any clearer.

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• bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would absolutely call Tesla a battery company. Would you not? They’ve invested a huge amount in battery R&D and sell them direct to consumers as well as use them in their cars. The rest of that stuff isn’t something they invested heavily in developing, ie. they didn’t invest R&D in developing new logistics technology for shipping cars.

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  • breadsmasher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Any company that invests money into something is suddenly also part of that entire industry and they can label themselves whatever they please. Gotcha.

    The supermarket I used to work for is now a software company, as they build software in house

    The insurance company I used to work for is now an AI company, as we internally developed and used machine learning models.

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    • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The supermarket I used to work for is now a software company, as they build software in house

      What % of that supermarket’s operating expenses is software development? How big is their technology division compared to the full scale of the company? Do they invest R&D in developing novel technologies?

      There are articles every day on Lemmy about how cars are becoming as high tech as smartphones. Is it so wrong to suggest that car companies are becoming a subset of tech companies?

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      • breadsmasher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Car companies becoming a subset of tech companies

        A subset of

        There we go! A huge comment chain later and it seems you are starting to get it. A subset of an automotive company is becoming more like a technology company.

        Its still an automotive company.

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