Comment on WhatsApp and Signal messages at risk of surveillance following EncroChat ruling, court hears | Computer Weekly

• smeeps@lemmy.mtate.me.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Then they enforce the chipmakers to put backdoors in the chips themselves

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  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’d wager they already have

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    • bamboo@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For x86 platforms it’s called Intel ME and AMD PSP.

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• bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What would that change?

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  • lastweakness@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’d have enough control over the software that you can ensure nothing like this happens

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    • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The basic security stuff exists on Android and iOS as well, namely full disk encryption. When that is defeated through a missing or bad password nothing keeps them from installing their malware with device access.

      If they got in through an external security vulnerabilities in some software package the situation is also the same on either OS.

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  • linearchaos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What would that change?

    To be honest, it ‘could’ change everything. You don’t need to run ‘phone’ hardware. You could assemble a handled computer with a 5G modem out of consumer-available parts.

    Even if we didn’t go that far, we would get our own LUKS encryption with keys we chose and if we knew we couldn’t trust the hardware, we could take precautions. They can attack apple and android easily enough because it’s just two platforms, one vulnerability in android and you’re into 50% of the population.

    While we at it with wishlists, maybe we could do some hardware version of tpm/dpapi and manage to relatively safely encrypt the ram as well.

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