Linux works great on ARM, I just want something similar to most mini-ITX boards (4x SATA, 2x mini-PCIe, and RAM slots), and I’ll convert my DIY NAS to ARM. But there just isn’t anything between RAM-limited SBCs and server-grade ARM boards.
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Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 month agoarm is very primed to take a lot of market share of server market from intel. Amazon is already very committed on making their graviton arm cpu their main cpu, which they own a huge lion share of the server market on alone.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
arm is a mixes bag. iirc atm the gpu on the Snapdragon X Elite os disabled on Linux, and consumer support is reliant on how well the hardware manufacturer supports it if it closed source driver. In the case of qualcomm, the history doesnt look great for it
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Eh, if they give me a PCIe slot, I’m happy to use that in the meantime. My current NAS uses an old NVIDIA GPU, so I’d just move that over.
Zangoose@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Apparently (from another comment on a thread about arm from a few weeks ago) consumer GPU bioses contain some x86 instructions that get run on the CPU, so getting full support for ARM isn’t as simple as swapping the cards over to a new motherboard. There are ways to hack around it (some people got AMD GPUs booting on a raspberry pi 5 using its PCIe lanes with a bunch of adapters) but it is pretty unreliable.
digdilem@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
They’re already doing it. We replaced our 6 vmware hosts earlier this year. Initially priced for Intel but then got offered AMD. Less cost, twice the power. Got 5 of them and saved some money.
Some code that relied upon intel hardware did need rebuilding, but otherwise it’s been very good.
icydefiance@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Yeah, I manage the infrastructure for almost 150 WordPress sites, and I moved them all to ARM servers a while ago, because they’re 10% or 20% cheaper on AWS.
Websites are rarely bottlenecked by the CPU, so that power efficiency is very significant.
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
I rrally think that most people who think that they want ARM machines are wrong, at least given the state of things in 2024. Like, maybe you use Linux…but do you want to run x86 Windows binary-only games? Even if you can get 'em running, you’ve lost the power efficiency. What’s hardware support like? Do you want to be able to buy other components? If you like stuff like that Framework laptop, which seems popular on here, an SoC is heading in the opposite direction of that – an all-in-one, non-expandable manufacturer-specified system.
But this is a legit application. A non-CPU-constrained datacenter application running open-source software compiled against ARM, where someone else has validated that the hardware is all good for the OS.
I would not go ARM for a desktop or laptop as things stand, though.
batshit@lemmings.world 1 month ago
If you didn’t want to game on your laptop, would a ARM device not be better for office work? Considering they’re quiet and their battery lasts forever.
frezik@midwest.social 1 month ago
ARM chips aren’t better at power efficiency compared to x84 above 10 or 15W or so. Apple is getting a lot out of them because TSMC 3nm; even the upcoming AMD 9000 series will only be on TSMC 4nm.
ARM is great for having more than one competent company in the market, though.
Nighed@sffa.community 1 month ago
As long as the apps all work. So much stuff is browser based now, but something will always turns up that doesn’t work. Something like mandatory timesheet software, a bespoke tool etc.