Comment on 77% Of Employees Report AI Has Increased Workloads And Hampered Productivity, Study Finds

• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think I’ll go with Yale over ‘person on the Internet who ignored the water part.’

  e360.yale.edu/…/artificial-intelligence-climate-e…

  From that article:

  Estimates of the number of cloud data centers worldwide range from around 9,000 to nearly 11,000. More are under construction. The International Energy Agency (IEA) projects that data centers’ electricity consumption in 2026 will be double that of 2022 — 1,000 terawatts, roughly equivalent to Japan’s current total consumption.

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  • Womble@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Forgive me for not trusting an ariticle that says that AI will use a perawatt within the next two years. Either the person who wrote it doesnt understand the difference between energy and power or they are very sloppy.

    Chat GPT took 50GWh to train [source[(forbes.com/…/ai-is-pushing-the-world-towards-an-e…)

    Americans burn 355 million gallons of gasoline a day source and at 33.5 Kwh/gal source that comes out to 12,000GWh per day burnt in gasoline.

    Water usage is more balanced, depending on where the data centres are it can either be a significant problem or not at all. The water doesnt vanish it just goes back into the air, but that can be problematic if it is a significant draw on local freshwater sources. e.g. using river water just before it flows into the sea, 0 issue, using a ground aquifer in a desert, big problem.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Training is already over. This has nothing to do with training, so that is irrelevant. This is about how much power is needed as it is used more and more. I think you know that.

      Also, I’m not sure why you think just because cars emit a lot of CO2, it doesn’t mean that other sources that emit a lot of CO2, but less than cars, are a good thing.

      The water doesnt vanish it just goes back into the air,

      Cool, tell that to all the people who rely on glaciers for their fresh water. That only includes a huge percentage of people in India and China.

      But really, what you’re telling me is that studies and scientists are wrong and you’re right. Cool. Good luck convincing people of that.

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      • Womble@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        [This] New Yorker article estimates GPT usage at 0.5GWhr a day, which comes out to 0.0041% of the energy burnt just in vehicle gasoline per day in the USA (and this is for worldwide usage for chatGPT).

        I’m not asking you to trust me at all, I’ve listed my sources, if you disagree with any of them or multiplying three numbers together that’s fine.

        Cool, tell that to all the people who rely on glaciers for their fresh water. That only includes a huge percentage of people in India and China.

        Yes, if you read my last reply I answered that directly. Water usage can be a big issue, or it can be a non-issue, its locale dependent.

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    • rekorse@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They aren’t just taking water noone was using.

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