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Comment on Microsoft points finger at the EU for not being able to lock down Windows

NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

They are legally required to let Crowdstrike crash your computer.

I call Bullshit.

If it had been Windows NT 3.5, there would have been no bluescreens around the world. It had stopped the buggy software, gave a message accordingly, and continued it’s job. That Windows was not stupid enough to crash itself just because of a null pointer in another software.

Now you tell me that Windows NT 3.5 is illegal?

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MinFapper@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
You could absolutely install software on Windows 3.5 that would crash the system.

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- OfCourseNot@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Can confirm. I've crashed most Microsoft products from msdos 5.
  
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  - vorsprung@hachyderm.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    @OfCourseNot @neme @apfelwoiSchoppen @Blue_Morpho @NeoNachtwaechter @MinFapper
    My dislike for MS products goes back to 1979 and the BASIC interpreter on the Commodore Pet.
    At the time I thought that's just how computers are but within just a few years I realised that non Microsoft BASIC always seemed to be better...
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Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I ran 3.5. Yes, a network driver crash would blue screen NT3.5. Graphics were in user space in 3.5 so a video driver couldn’t take NT 3.5 down but networking was in the kernel. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_kernel

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- NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  a network driver crash would blue screen NT3.5.
  
  OK, and… Were the legally required to make it crash?
  
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  - Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Not then, but European anti trust lawsuits resulted in laws that require Microsoft to allow 3rd parties complete access. That means if the 3rd party software is a low level driver, it will crash the system. They are legally required to allow vendors the level of access that can crash the system.
    
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  - MinFapper@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    A better comparison would be an iPhone. Apple has locked that down so much that it’s impossible to install something like CrowdStrike falcon, thus it’s not possible for something like this to happen.
    
    Microsoft is saying if the EU would let them, they too could lock down their platform enough to prevent this from happening.
    
    However, I would prefer to maintain control over my device and do what I want with it, instead of just what Apple/Microsoft want; even if that means I might break my device.
    
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  - BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    They were legally required to permit third party to install a kernel mode driver.
    
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