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Comment on Europe must end its quantum technology research with China over security and military risks of collaboration, researcher says

sem@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I did not see in the article any arguments, except the fact that Chinese researchers are in some US blacklists. Only proclamations about EU should restrict, EU should prevent, etc. But without any arguments why. Maybe lack of actual arguments is the reason why the article is so short?

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0x815@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

[…] called quantum technologies “potentially revolutionary and disruptive” and classed them as “an element of strategic competition” with rival states […] for components that can have military as well as civilian uses [and potentially] give China a scientific and military edge.

So the article is quite clear, just read it.

Basically, it is what China has always been doing, too. Many argue that China has even harsher rules regarding international collaboration -in both science and economy- and does not show any willingness for reciprocity.

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- NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  So the article is quite clear, just read it.
  
  LOL any statement that includes “potentially” is quite the opposite of clear. It comes out of the realm of fantasy or fear (or both), and has usually been put there with manipulative intentions.
  
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  - 0x815@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Dual-use products can be used for civilian use cases and potentially also for the military, that’s why it’s called ‘dual-use’. That is pretty obvious.
    
    It really helps if you read the article and try to understand. What is arguably more important is to stay away from this propaganda channels. It’s all on you, of course, you can do what you want, but if you keep reading and parroting these garbage propaganda and you’ll never learn how to think on your own, you’ll never get a life.
    
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    NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    you’ll never learn how to think on your own, you’ll never get a life.
    
    Looks like it is you who cannot think on your own. You were not even capable of reading these three lines from me LMAO
    
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- sem@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I did not see in article any proof that Chineese scientists have a bad intentions. A statement about “they always do it [because they are evil maoists]” is not a proof for me.
  
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  - Arkouda@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The proof is reference to China. Just like if one were to say we should stop technological collaboration with India that would be enough.
    
    Considering both Governments are notorious for reverse engineering things they only have on the condition they wouldn’t reverse engineer it, both Governments are actively hostile to the “west”, and both Governments are actively helping a war criminal get his hands on things he shouldn’t I think it is safe to say no one needs much more of a reason other than a history book to say “Maybe we shouldn’t be trading and collaborating with hostile nations”.
    
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