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The employment contract is such a contract. It involves a legal transfer of legal responsibility for the positive and negative results of production from the employees to the solely the employer. However, there is no corresponding de facto transfer of de facto responsibility. The contract is unfulfillable.

Groups set exit fees for transferring out community value. They can lower the exit fees for mutually-recognized groups, and exclude "groups" with no public goods funding
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rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The employment contract is such a contract. It involves a legal transfer of legal responsibility for the positive and negative results of production from the employees to the solely the employer. However, there is no corresponding de facto transfer of de facto responsibility. The contract is unfulfillable.

Funny that I have never looked at it from this particular point.

Groups set exit fees for transferring out community value. They can lower the exit fees for mutually-recognized groups, and exclude “groups” with no public goods funding

Can one person be a group?

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- jlou@mastodon.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  1 individual can be a part of many groups. Being a part of zero groups would make people pay steep exit fees for every economic transaction with you and you wouldn't be able to access any group collective property, group currencies or receive mutual aid that these groups provide. There would be strong economic incentives to participate in these groups. Since all firms would be mandated to be worker coops, these groups would be a new way to provide startup capital to new firms
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  - rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    OK, the economical parts have more constraints than ancap, but the whole idea is similar and understandable.
    
    What about violence? If a person commits murder or theft, how do the rest deal with it?
    
    If there’s an argument over something, how does it get resolved?
    
    Same question as “how do law enforcement and courts work in ancap”, only not for ancap.
    
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    jlou@mastodon.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Abolishing the employment contract isn't more constraints than ancap. It is part of legitimate contracts' non-fraudulent nature.
    Groups enable the large-scale cooperation needed for an ordered stateless society.
    Groups could have judicial systems. Judicial agreements could exist between groups. Thieves would pay damages to the victim. For serious crimes, there could be expulsion from group(s) and blocklists
    For arguments, groups could subsidize agreement across social distance
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