Comment

Comment on Bethesda Game Studios workers have unionized

rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

So you agree that the employer-employee contract must be abolished due to it violating workers’ inalienable right to workplace democracy?

No, just that you can’t offload responsibility via contract. I agree though that contract under clear pressure is negligible.

The way collective property works is that each group member that possesses collective property self-assess and declares the price they would be willing to turn over the possession to another group member. Then, they pay a percentage fee on this self-assessed price to the group. Groups democratically decide what to do with the collective funds

So a group can make the fee zero and thus have a usual ancap community?

source

Sort:hotnew top

jlou@mastodon.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The employment contract is such a contract. It involves a legal transfer of legal responsibility for the positive and negative results of production from the employees to the solely the employer. However, there is no corresponding de facto transfer of de facto responsibility. The contract is unfulfillable.
Groups set exit fees for transferring out community value. They can lower the exit fees for mutually-recognized groups, and exclude "groups" with no public goods funding
@technology
source
- rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  The employment contract is such a contract. It involves a legal transfer of legal responsibility for the positive and negative results of production from the employees to the solely the employer. However, there is no corresponding de facto transfer of de facto responsibility. The contract is unfulfillable.
  
  Funny that I have never looked at it from this particular point.
  
  Groups set exit fees for transferring out community value. They can lower the exit fees for mutually-recognized groups, and exclude “groups” with no public goods funding
  
  Can one person be a group?
  
  source
  - jlou@mastodon.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    1 individual can be a part of many groups. Being a part of zero groups would make people pay steep exit fees for every economic transaction with you and you wouldn't be able to access any group collective property, group currencies or receive mutual aid that these groups provide. There would be strong economic incentives to participate in these groups. Since all firms would be mandated to be worker coops, these groups would be a new way to provide startup capital to new firms
    @technology
    source
    rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    OK, the economical parts have more constraints than ancap, but the whole idea is similar and understandable.
    
    What about violence? If a person commits murder or theft, how do the rest deal with it?
    
    If there’s an argument over something, how does it get resolved?
    
    Same question as “how do law enforcement and courts work in ancap”, only not for ancap.
    
    source
    -> View More Comments