Comment on Obesity as a Spiritual Problem, the Vice of Gluttony?
walnutwalrus@lemmy.world 1 year agoI got a lot of downvotes on this on lemmyworld but I may be speaking from a different perspective of already assuming that there are certain physical or scientific factors involved… it just doesn’t seem like enough to explain all the obesity we see in the world
also there seems to be some confusion, either all the factors are known for losing weight and people won’t do it (which is some kind of choice or spiritual issue), or we don’t know what all the factors are and you couldn’t in theory rule out something extra-scientific or there is more to the story… which is what we should discuss (I could see people disagreeing with me and having a good discussion about it but the downvotes seem like a little much)
sj_zero 1 year ago
Life isn't fair, sometimes it's easier to be virtuous for some people than others. It doesn't mean virtue isn't virtuous because it's harder.
A couple generations ago, fat people were super rare because there wasn't that much food and the food we had was kinda boring. Basic meals like meal after meal of bread, or potatoes, if you were lucky some meat, no spices like we think of today. In fact, our propensity for gaining weight comes from the reality that in the past you were much more likely to die of starvation than of overeating.
But also, it was much easier back then to be a violent wrathful person. To be strong enough to defend yourself but to not abuse that strength is a virtue whether it's easy or not.
If one grows up on a monestary and never sees a member of the opposite sex, it is easy to be chaste, but that doesn't mean it isn't a virtue to be chaste in a hypersexualized culture where you can't escape the temptation for lust, and that's something we deeply desire the same as food on an existential level.
If one grows up under the boot of a tyrannical aristocracy, it may be easy not to be prideful, but that doesn't mean humility stops being a virtue.
I've noticed people love their downvote brigades. You can take the redditor out of reddit, but you can't take the reddit out of the redditor.