Comment on An angry admin shares the CrowdStrike outage experience

slacktoid@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’m in. This world desperately needs an information workers union. Someone to cover those poor fuckers in the help desk and desktop support as well as the engineers and architects that keep all of this shit running.

  Those of us that aren’t underpaid are treated poorly. Today is what it looks like if everybody strikes at once.

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  • slacktoid@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This dude here coming in hot with a name, Information Workers Union (IWU). Love it

    Soo are you gonna create the community or am I?

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Nah.

      Bureau of Information & Technology Servicers.

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      • uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        BITechS

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    • Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m too chicken.

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• gari_9812@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Any time is a good time to unionize

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  • slacktoid@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Agreed, just here they have then by the metaphorical balls.

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• EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  To preface, I want to see a tech workers union so, so bad.

  With that said, I genuinely don’t believe that most tech workers would unionize. So many of them are brainwashed into thinking that a union would dictate all salaries, would force hiring to be domestic-only, or would ensure jobs for life for incompetent people. Anyone that knows what a union does in 2024 knows that none of that has to be true. A tech union only needs to be a flat fee every month, guaranteed access to a lawyer with experience in your cases/employer, and the opportunity to strike when a company oversteps. It’s only beneficial.

  Even if you could get hundreds of thousands of signatories, the recent layoffs have shown that tech companies at the highest level would gladly fire a sizable number of employees if it meant stamping out a union. As someone that has conducted interviews in big tech, the sheer numbers at peak of people that had applied for some roles was higher than the number of active employees in the whole company. In theory, Google could terminate everyone and replace them with brand-new workers in a few months. It would be a fucking mess, but it (in theory) shows that if a Google or Apple decided that it wanted no part of unions they could just dig into their fungible talent pool, fire a ton of people, promote people that stayed, and fill roles with foreign or under-trained talent.

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  • slacktoid@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I feel you with this. They do not see themselves as workers. Thank you for the preface.

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    • EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Agreed, sadly to many there is still the view of tech being a meritocracy, and that they’re in FAANG because of their hard work over everything else, so fuck everyone else. Naturally, many change their tune once their employer actions regressive policies, but it’s surprising how many people just have zero understanding of what a union does. They see cop shows or The Wire and assume it’ll be like the unions there…

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      • slacktoid@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        All true… All sad. Time to snap some fools to reality I guess

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