Torgue weapons also can’t get critical hits, which really lowers their potential damage output. I never use Torgue unless it’s something like the Unkempt Harold. Especially frustrating are weapons with Torgue barrels that shoot these terrible grenades or rockets that (again) can’t crit. What good is a Jakobs rifle with a Torgue barrel over literally any other barrel?
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Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I thought the weapons were a big step down in BL2. I swear 50% of the guns I found were gimmicks (e.g. throw it as a grenade to reload) but not actually all that effective.
Torgue weapons were especially bad. Yeah I know everyone loves Mr. Torgue and explosions are fun, but those guns are so inaccurate they can’t hit anything >2 meters away. I’d take a weapon that can reliably hit a target any day.
The devs also got rid of the Atlas and S&S brands from BL1. Those were almost always my pick unless so it was a real letdown to see them missing in BL2.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
The ability to do aoe damage is a pretty good bonus, but the bullet speed was so awful it rarely helped. Also there weren’t many areas where torque weapons aoe was better than just throwing a grenade or usinga rocket launcher. The ammo costs for rockets were also absurd.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Oh interesting I dug the weapons “upgrades”, as they were presented.
The elemental effects and reatore effects were much more balanced than 1 for me.
I do think the grenade to reload was a bad mechanic, but I can’t call it a gimmick since I don’t know any other games that had that mechanic.
Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I remember enjoying the elemental guns (Maliwan) a lot in both BL1 and BL2. It’s a shame it took till the Pre-Sequel to add ice!
I’d argue the throw-to-reload mechanic isn’t in other games because it’s a gimmick.
The other letdowns in BL2 were A) the Hyperion “reverse kick” guns that were only accurate after you emptied most of the magazine, and B) the 3-barrel Gattling guns with magazines that were way too small to be worth spinning up. I feel like these together were 25% of my pickups and just a waste of time.
Many of the legendary guns and unique grenade effects were pretty fun in BL2 though. Those were both solid improvements.