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Comment on Exit poll: Labour to win landslide in general election

Wanderer@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

It’s really important what happens in the next 5 years and how the media reports that.

Fascist is a term that gets thrown around too lightly for people that they disagree with especially on this website.

There is two things seem to being going on. Britain has moved left. That’s largely due to how much everyone hates the conservatives rather than labour winning votes.

But the unexpected thing is Reform gaining a lot of seats and becoming second in certain seats. Reform have run on changing the voting system, house of lords, reducing taxes for small business and low incomes, improving the NHS. But the real thing people are voting on them in reducing immigration both legal and illegal. This is why they have gained millions of votes and if this doesn’t get addressed their share will continue to increase because they are the only party talking about it in the way people want. But Reform want to increase defence spending they are friendly with Russia and not good on the environment.

The door is definitely opening for the UK to swing further right than the current Tories in 5 years.

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BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think Brexit caused enough widespread, obvious, long term, ongoing, and unfixable pain for everyone that people are starting to see through the lies and move away from the ultra conservative side.

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- intelisense@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I disagree. The meteoric rise of Reform indicates that a large part of the country is moving further right, not left. In contrast, the gains by Labour in terms of votes were not what I had hoped for. What turned this into a land slide was reform splitting the right wing vote.
  
  We/you need to spend the next 5 years addressing that problem or there are indeed bad times ahead.
  
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  - BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Thanks for the good explanation.
    
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footoro@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
But Brexit was also mainly about immigration and „taking back control“. The tories are pretty damn racist and anti-immigration, not that it makes any sense for an aging population on an isolated island.

The right has normalised an inhumane rhetoric all over Europe in the last 10 years. Politicians have tried to underhand the „concerns“ of citizens, the media has tried to expose the lies of the right wingers, they tried to prove through arguments that they make no sense. It’s all pointless, the right wing is gaining more and more ground even though we all know they’re lying, fear mongering and licking Putins boot.

So now we’re in this fortress called Europe and we’re totally fine with people drowning in the Mediterranean Sea, in the channel, getting beaten up and locked up at EU borders, rotting in Lybian concentration camps run by local warlords, if not being tortured and raped.

I honestly don’t know what else to address in terms of migration. More drownings? More torture? More concentration camps?

My guess is that there’ll be a continued competition over who’s the toughest on migration while our social systems, free speech and eventually democracy as a whole will erode in the background.

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