Comment on Proton launches privacy-focused Google Docs alternative: Docs in Proton Drive is an open-source, end-to-end encrypted collaborative document editor

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• BenPranklin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Proton has been great for degoogling but don’t put all your eggs in one basket again, that’s what makes degoogling a difficult thing. There’s several proton services I intentionally avoid just so if for some unforseen reason they start being shitty in 5 years I don’t have to uproot my entire digital life to leave them.

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  • ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maps is what makes degoogling hard ;p

    Everything else is pretty straightforward.

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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And so what happens to your passwords if Proton were to go offline and you needed to continue using Proton Pass? Do they have an open source server you can use like Bitwarden does or vaultwarden? Or are you essentially locking yourself into a new walled garden for no reason other than name recognition? Why not just use KeePassXC which is encrypted locally rather than share your password with a third party who can easily capture your private key password?

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  • nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think a lot of these cloud-based passwords saves will have a local database that syncs with the cloud. I think you can unlock them and access your passwords without internet access

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    • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Keyword… unlock, not add information or use them offline where they can sync to an open source backend. They are cloud-based password managers that are designed to operate online. The backend is not open source. It is designed to lock you into a walled garden.

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      • nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        i think you can export the data from proton pass.

        it’s a cloud solution. keepassxc works great and I don’t know why you want something else to replace it

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  • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Proton Pass works offline.

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    • ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “A walled garden is a garden enclosed by high walls, especially when this is done for horticultural rather than security purposes, although originally all gardens may have been enclosed for protection from animal or human intruders.”

      Agreed proton isn’t this

      "A closed platform, walled garden, or closed ecosystem[1][2] is a software system wherein the carrier or service provider has control over applications, content, and/or media, and restricts convenient access to non-approved applicants or content. "

      Try using thunderbird and id argue proton is this

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      • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Still, that seems like a combo of “comes with the territory of encrypted email” and “their software could use some major improvements”. I think closed platform is closed by design.

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    • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It will cache credentials for a short time so you can still access some of your passwords. It will not let you add new credentials. It’s like a web browser working in offline mode for a period of time. It is a cloud-based password manager with a closed-source server backend.

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  • Alk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because of their integration with simplelogin.

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    • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Vaultwarden/Bitwarden integrate with SimpleLogin… and they offer other alias service providers as well.

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      • ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Deeply curious about the down votes, isn’t this accurate?

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• Manalith@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My only gripe with Proton Pass so far is that I’m used to Bitwarden’s right-click autofill menu and some sites’ 2FA codes don’t automatically pop up for some reason.

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• ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Does pass support custom url filters yet? I self host and so I have a lot of 192.168 bookmarks…when I tried pass it had no way to organize them by url prefix (port number).

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  • exanime@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Seems to work fine on my web front to deluge

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  • exanime@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good question, don’t know.

    I’ll check it out and report back

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  • zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Unfortunately it doesn’t yet. Having same issue.

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