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• stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’d check it out if it was free, but I am not paying to prove someone else on the internet right.

  Your response just tells me that you are not interested in a good faith debate.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You don’t have to pay to “prove” I’m right. You just have to accept that experts have looked at this, and nuclear does not need to be part of the conversation. Not beyond keeping whatever we have already, at least.

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I am absolutely certain that experts have looked at it, and come to different conclusions.

      I’ll even go as far as to accept that there is no scientific consensus.

      However, seeing that we keep outputting more and more co2, we need to do something drastic, fossil plants are one of the biggest sources of co2, so it makes sense to shut them down as soon as possible.

      Nuclear power doesn’t really produce co2, the radiation is a local, limited problem, co2 emmisions is a global, existential problem.

      Renewables are still not ready to deal with base load in a power grid long term, hydro power messes with local fish and environment, solar doesn’t work during the night, wind is quite unpredictable, batteries degrade over time and can’t supply AC without extra equipment.

      So what is left but Nuclear power?

      Nothing, nuclear power will buy us time to develop reliable renewable power while cutting our co2 emmissions drasticly.

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      • frezik@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I am absolutely certain that experts have looked at it, and come to different conclusions.

        I’ll even go as far as to accept that there is no scientific consensus.

        And what reference do you have for that? A recent one, because as I said, the economics have totally changed in the last 30 years.

        Nuclear power doesn’t really produce co2

        Concrete does. Reactors need a lot of concrete. A lot.

        Renewables are still not ready to deal with base load in a power grid long term

        Which doesn’t matter. Base load exists because it’s cheap to make power plants that stay at the same level all the time. The economics of that don’t apply to renewables.

        Nothing, nuclear power will buy us time

        Utterly untrue. It’ll take 10 years to deploy a single new GW of nuclear. That’s not buying time.

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