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• AppleTea@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You’d rather believe Trump is result of foreign interference, that our own institutions would never result in this without being sullied from outside. It’s fan fic, it’s Cold War nonsense.

  Trump is the consequence of our political systems, of our spiteful culture, of our economics that promises success and leaves people sick, broken, and in debt. So what if the Russians had a few hundred Facebook posts? That “seed” would not have taken if the soil weren’t already fertile. Frankly, I don’t think it made a difference. We were barrelling toward Trump with or without the oh so spooky slavs typing on a keyboard.

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  • EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I recommend you read up. And quit sounding like you’re on Putin’s propaganda team: ‘oh that’s cold war nonsense’

    Putin funded Trump, fed him the whole Obama’s a Kenyan schtick, Hilary’s a criminal ploy.

    Trump can’t think up or accomplish a damn thing without a cheer squad to goad & lead him where to go.

    Tom Snyder’s the Road to Unfreedom has the path well researched. I highly recommend you read that.

    Yes, Rupert Murdoch had been warring against real news since Reagan (Bush’s puppet) withdrew laws that required stations labeled ‘News’ carry truth & news

    Yes, Reagan was an early predecessor to the incompetent celebrity politician role that Trump walks. Yes, Danny Quayle was a shining example of idiocy in politics.

    Putin saw these things the Murdoch & Bush families put forth & jumped on the band wagon, gave it a nitro boost. Not much difference? Follow the money.

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    • AppleTea@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You are looking for a Great Man of history to pin this on. You’d rather believe someone nefarious is in charge and pulling the strings from an ocean away, than to see this for what it is; an empire with no real conscious oversight. A pile of self-interested businessmen, politicians, and militarists doing whatever they can to line their pockets, profits above all else.

      The US has, per capita, the largest prison population and, outright, the biggest military on the planet. If there’s a road to ‘unfreedom’, we traveled down it a long time ago.

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      • EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You are looking for a Great Man of history to pin this on. You’d rather believe someone nefarious is in charge and pulling the strings from an ocean away, than to see this for what it is; an empire with no real conscious oversight.

        No, I just prefer to have realization of all of the components.

        A pile of self-interested businessmen, politicians, and militarists doing whatever they can to line their pockets, profits above all else.

        Agreed.

        The US has, per capita, the largest prison population and, outright, the biggest military on the planet. If there’s a road to ‘unfreedom’, we traveled down it a long time ago.

        Also agreed. As I said before, we were on this path, many made it worse. Putin put it on steroids.

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• Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They were making a joke about “planting his seed” meaning impregnating.

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