Comment on Do posts from instances that don't allow downvotes have an unfair advantage?
Boinketh@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It seems odd to me that we would federate with instances lacking such basic functionality. Not allowing their users to downvote is one thing, but if they don’t recognize downvotes from other instances, that sort of ruins the whole upvote/downvote dynamic for everyone.
LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I was on Beehaw and they block downvotes. I didn’t think much of it until I went to a federated channel with low participation (it was a new channel) and I wanted to downvote some bot-spam… but couldn’t cause Beehaw didn’t allow it.
I understand (but don’t agree with) the site operators intention, but their rational breaks down if you view the fediverse as something more than the single instance you’re registered with.
Fortunately, it’s easy to “vote with your feet”.
ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Beehaw seems to want to only be beehaw lol. I’m honestly not sure why they’re even using lemmy to host their community.
Boinketh@lemm.ee 10 months ago
If I understand the rules correctly, the problem is that voting with your feet doesn’t work because trolls can use no-downvote instances to do some major trolling.
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
How so?
LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Well Beehaw’s rational is explained in this thread.
The reason I wanted to downvote was because Reddit communities like GameDeals is one of the new equalization I cannot easily find on Lemmy.
Thus, I found !gamedeals@lemmit.online / https://lemmit.online/c/gamedeals. It uses a bot to scrape the content from Reddit, but the scoring and popularity is missing.
When I joined there were only 13 people subscribed (now it’s 150+). If I’m limited to upvotes, it was difficult to “vote for the threads I liked” vs “vote for the shovelware” that appears in that channel.
With downvote, I was able to downvote shovelware and upvote threads I thought others would be interested. Everything else would be left as neutral.
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
I don’t really see how those two issues relate to each other though? You said beehaw’s rationalisation breaks down once you consider federation, but the problem you’re describing doesn’t really relate to federation. It also doesn’t really seem like much of a problem to me either to be honest. Yeah, it changes the dynamics of a group, but the good stuff will still get more upvotes than the crap. It’s not quite as granular as you would like, but it doesn’t fundamentally break the group or anything.
shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Wait, so disallowing downvotes means you can’t downvote posts from any federated instance? That’s kinda weird…