Comment on ASUS is apparently killing the ability to root present and future Zenfones

ComputerSagtNein@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• godless@feddit.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Plenty of reasons.

  • System wide adblock
  • Advanced permission management
  • Backups and exports of system apps
  • Full uninstall of bloatware (instead of mere hiding them with adb)
  • Enabling screenshots system-wide

  And a bunch of other stuff I need in order to have a fully functioning device.

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  • lemann@lemmy.one ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    • Advanced permission management
    • Backups and exports of system apps

    Two things previously possible in stock android (via appops & adb backups), but no longer possible to any realistic extent (particularly ADB backups, as most devs disable this for their apps). These are the main factors for me rooting personally

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  • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can’t you remove bloatware with adb nowadays?

    See makeuseof.com/uninstall-android-app-adb-system-ap…

    Also stackoverflow.com/questions/18755739/

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    • godless@feddit.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It doesn’t remove them, it uninstalls the app from the current user profile, but they persist on system level. That’s what I meant with the comment in brackets.

      It’s the best you can do if rooting is not an option, but I prefer a full removal.

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      • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah, I see. Would the app still run and consume resources? Or is it just sitting in whatever is a phone’s equivalent of a hard disc?

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• ddkman@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes there is.

  If you want a cfw, which you do because your phone either comes with 2 years of updates or has touchwiz.

  If you run cfw you NEED safetynet. Even the witzair app crashes without it. If you cfw and need safetynet, you have to have magisk. Magisk needs root for the safetynetfix.

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• SinJab0n@mujico.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I have been using an old samsung tablet with lineage os (android 12), but the last stock rom was android 6.

  So yeah, for me the ability to unlock the boot loader is a must. And that’s not even mentioning getting away of spooky-ware I got as a gift a Huawei phone, really good phone but when I tried to search an app using the sistem laucher it fucking asked for a lot of data, fingerprints, etc. I was sorry to this person but I just sold it ASAP since I wasn’t able to install a Custom Rom to get away from all that crap.

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