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Godort@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

I listen to a podcast that has a theory about this. The comedy in those kind of movies was always there, it just changed form.

Prior to the sort of wry, Joss Whedon-esque dialogue tons of action movies used slapstick for levity. The verbal jokes were the domain of comedy movies.

Then after Avengers made a billion dollars studios started aping the style and comedy as a genre in Hollywood just sort of stopped existing in favor of dramedy and action-comedy.

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scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
That would be really interesting to listen to, because that’s exactly how I feel. Avengers 1 to avengers 2 had some great comedy. I felt natural, like a bunch of friends, just goofing around while trying to save the world.

Now it feels so forced in, like it’s clearly some Hollywood executive saying make it be funny instead of it naturally feeling like friends hanging out

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ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I don’t think you can just lump verbal jokes as comedies. Lots of movies used the occasional cheap verbal joke, especially action movies. What changed is reducing the movie making process to a formula based on what talented directors do. Every scene now needs a joke or an action sequence no matter what, maybe an exception for 1-2 scenes to establish a story at the beginning. This completely destroys the ability to build drama, or have sad scenes when appropriate. They also don’t hire directors that would fight them on this either.

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moobythegoldensock@geddit.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Well said.

Hell, look at the James Bond, John McClane any of Arnold’s heroes. They all joke.

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- WarmSoda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  True. But I’d argue those jokes were “one liners”. They wouldn’t use a one liner all the time. After a while you knew there was one coming, but that was because everyone got used to that style.
  
  These days it’s more like “every other liner” jokes. Character A says something, and character B cracks a joke.
  
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ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Pretty interesting.

I remember when comedy wasn’t just obvious jokes or sarcasm. Now everything is sarcasm or sarcastic. OR BOTH.

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