According to OP, this isn’t about hurt feelings but about illegal content lol. I support distancing ourselves from illegal content.
Comment on Annoucement: Upcoming vote on defederation
shogun5000@exploding-heads.com 1 year ago
Lemmy is going to quickly just turn into a frustrating, confusing echo chamber because everyone’s hurt feelings is going to require defederation. I think defederation is being abused more and more because of overly sensitive people who would probably be better off avoiding the internet entirely.
dampfnudel@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
shogun5000@exploding-heads.com 1 year ago
What exactly has been “illegal”? Serious. I haven’t seen that pointed out yet.
dampfnudel@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
I haven’t seen that pointed out yet.
I’m not OP/Admin, but I trust the admins to make that call. To my knowledge, our admins haven’t ever brought this issue up before so I’m not concerned that they throw around the concept of defederation too much; it’s literally the first time I’ve seen in mentioned here.
And frankly, I appreciate our admins’ discretion. There is a lot of horrible, unspeakably awful and illegal stuff out on the internet. They are probably forced to see a bunch of it in their admin queue. I don’t want to see it. I don’t want to read it. If possible, I don’t want to take the time to block it. I just want it to go away.
RedDoozer@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Your definition of “hate speech” is childish. Hate speech promotes a specific belief filled with prejudiced meanings, leading to disrespect to a certain group of people’s dignity. It is defined by objective standards and has negative impacts on society. This kind of behavior can harm our community as a whole. Strongly in favor of defederating any server that cannot differentiate between “hate speech” and “free speech”
brandon@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Am I missing the part where this will have a large impact on EH users? Nobody is trying to take down the content on your home instance.
47_alpha_tango@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
That fact that we can cut off instances that are rife with hate speech and illegal content is a massive advantage of Lemmy.
shogun5000@exploding-heads.com 1 year ago
Nah. Sensitive types will just call the things they don’t like “hate speech” to justify pushing their opinions on others. Authoritarian semantics. Yawn.
RedDoozer@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Authoritarian semantics that is taken to a vote. Bravo, you live in a perpetual circlejerk.
Efwis@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
If you are worried about the “sensitive users” calling something hate speech just to defederate an instance, rest assured the admin here looks at everything from all angles before making a decision on what to do. This is discussed in on the matrix channel quite a bit before the admins of lemmy.zip make their decisions on what to do.
Demigodrick and Sami listen to information provided and research it before even starting to think about to decide what to do. And like he posted, he does not want to defederate unless absolutely necessary based on his local laws since he is in the UK.
Monologue@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
yeah i agree, they take a lot of user input before making decisions that will effect the community. also the final decision will still be made by the users (unless it becomes a legal issue). with that being said i highly recommend all lemmy.zip users to join the matrix server and voice their different viewpoints.
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
This is the best part imo. I don’t think people from the affected instances should have a voice in what our instance does either. I’d hope that the vote is only open to members of this instance.
The problem these guys don’t seem to understand is they absolutely become guilty by association. If you hang out with bigots all day and defend their “right to free speech” anytime someone calls them a bigot, then you are also a bigot. Also, you know, Freedom of speech doesn’t mean requirement of others to listen.
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Just quickly to say yes, only open to lemmy.zip accounts with a minimum age limit.