Where was the nuance in Proposition 8?
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kenbw2@lemmy.world 1 year agoAnd this is what’s wrong with politics now
I’m all for gay rights and advocate for same sex marriage. But if he doesn’t then he’s now boxed in with the skinhead kill all the immigrants crowd? Where’s the nuance?
charonn0@startrek.website 1 year ago
kenbw2@lemmy.world 1 year ago
This is the first I’ve heard of that proposition so I have no idea. Nor do I know the guy’s feelings on it.
jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
I’m all for gay rights and advocate for same sex marriage. But if he doesn’t then he’s now boxed in with the skinhead kill-all-the-immigrants crowd? Where’s the nuance?
The nuance is that straight white people get away with this shit. Sleep with dogs wake up with fleas. Also you just did a “im all for gay rights…, but…” Lmao.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If someone is using their money and influence to actively trample on my human rights, then yes, I reserve the right to call them out for being a cunt.
Aw diddums, but what if I hurt the homophobes wittle feelings 🥺??? I don’t give a fuck about his precious little fee fees. I care about the rights of people.
And no, calling out a bigot for being bigoted is not the issue with politics. The issue with politics is the bigoted shitheads who view themselves as deserving more rights than the “undesirables” in society.
Draces@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You’re upset the bigot gets classified as a bigot? Do you also care for the flavor of your shit sundae? No. Bigotry is a hard line that does shape modern politics
ExFed@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I agree, it ought to be a hard line.
Question is, though, where’s the line? We don’t all come with the same exact moral compass, and we’re all perfectly capable of rationalizing evil, so you can’t just say “be a moral and non-bigoted person” and expect the desired outcome. Plenty of slave owners worldwide were convinced that slavery was not just morally admissible but even admirable.
No matter where that line is, it needs to be well-defined and agreed-upon, or else it’s arbitrary, and thus open to abuse and corruption by demagogues.
ponfriend@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I think we can agree that those slave owners were wrong, just as we can agree that Eich was and remains wrong about gay marriage.