kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 month ago
That its only a symptom of the real problem and won't actually solve anything.
The animals they catch are weakened from pesticides.
kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 month ago
That its only a symptom of the real problem and won't actually solve anything.
The animals they catch are weakened from pesticides.
trk@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Citation needed
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Before pesticides cats used to just starve. Everyone knows this.
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kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 month ago
Equally, before the post-DDT pesticides(when the decline started), housecats didn't exist, never went outside and never killed anything.
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Go look at the other reply where I sourced my opinion.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
You don’t think house cats existed before DDT pesticides?
You don’t think house cats, which have existed for 3600 years, existed before 1874?…
Do I need to math that math for you?
kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 month ago
ttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8640698/
We didn't know or study the effects of pesticides in various wild birds. And it varies wildly between species, with chickens not being a good general case. Also that birds are considerably more affected by pesticides than mammals.
Simple logic. Housecats do not have access to deep woods or exist in large populations outside of cities and suburbs in North America, yet the populations are declining there. This implies that they are not the cause of the decline.
This logic is backed up by https://www.birds.cornell.edu/home/bring-birds-back#:~:text=All%20told%2C%20the%20North%20American%20bird%20population%20is,declined%20by%2053%25%2C%20or%20another%20720%20million%20birds.
LWhich points out that it is a multitude of factors and that grassland species(i.e. farmland) are the most affected, with wetland and forest species being less affected.
trk@aussie.zone 1 month ago
That’s a whole heap of words to say “maybe”.
If you’re happy being a selfish piece of shit, feel free to leave your cat roam. When Mittens gets hit by a car / contracts feline aids / otherwise meets a premature death, you can rest easy knowing that akshually it was probably pesticides.
kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 month ago
Say you didn't understand what any of those papers said without saying you didn't understand what those papers said.