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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Being against equal rights for gay/bi people is considered pretty right wing these days mate

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  • ExFed@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sure, but “alt-right” means something specific, and I was missing the jump of reason … but this thread has gotten pretty heated, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised people were weirdly upset by what I thought was an innocent question.

    Oh well, it’s the internet, after all.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Alt right is pretty undefined imo.

      It was started by a right winger who didn’t want to be called far-right so he just called himself “alternative-right”. It caught on but his views were still the same right wing views.

      I guess people often use it to mean the more internet-savvy, meme-posting, trolling right wing. But they too dunk on LGBT people so even then I’m not sure why anybod would think it’s not connected.

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      • prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Dude sincerely go to hell, you are cataloging people that are not in your political side as an alt-righter.

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      • ExFed@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Fair enough, political definitions are rarely well-defined.

        I guess people often use it to mean the more internet-savvy, meme-posting, trolling right wing.

        Yeah, that’s how I understood it… Not really something Eich seems to do much.

        I’m not sure why anybod would think it’s not connected.

        Just because Eich has awful views doesn’t give license to also be awful by throwing around random other accusations or connecting him with trolling skinheads. Remember, even the Nuremberg Trials had defense attorneys, so let’s stick to the high road of justice, not the shitty cesspool that the far right wants to drag us into.

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  • kenbw2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And this is what’s wrong with politics now

    I’m all for gay rights and advocate for same sex marriage. But if he doesn’t then he’s now boxed in with the skinhead kill all the immigrants crowd? Where’s the nuance?

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    • Draces@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re upset the bigot gets classified as a bigot? Do you also care for the flavor of your shit sundae? No. Bigotry is a hard line that does shape modern politics

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      • ExFed@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I agree, it ought to be a hard line.

        Question is, though, where’s the line? We don’t all come with the same exact moral compass, and we’re all perfectly capable of rationalizing evil, so you can’t just say “be a moral and non-bigoted person” and expect the desired outcome. Plenty of slave owners worldwide were convinced that slavery was not just morally admissible but even admirable.

        No matter where that line is, it needs to be well-defined and agreed-upon, or else it’s arbitrary, and thus open to abuse and corruption by demagogues.

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    • charonn0@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Where was the nuance in Proposition 8?

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      • kenbw2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is the first I’ve heard of that proposition so I have no idea. Nor do I know the guy’s feelings on it.

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    • jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m all for gay rights and advocate for same sex marriage. But if he doesn’t then he’s now boxed in with the skinhead kill-all-the-immigrants crowd? Where’s the nuance?

      The nuance is that straight white people get away with this shit. Sleep with dogs wake up with fleas. Also you just did a “im all for gay rights…, but…” Lmao.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If someone is using their money and influence to actively trample on my human rights, then yes, I reserve the right to call them out for being a cunt.

      Aw diddums, but what if I hurt the homophobes wittle feelings 🥺??? I don’t give a fuck about his precious little fee fees. I care about the rights of people.

      And no, calling out a bigot for being bigoted is not the issue with politics. The issue with politics is the bigoted shitheads who view themselves as deserving more rights than the “undesirables” in society.

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