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Thanks for your write up! I never finished the game, it didn’t really pull me in as I expected it to. But on this topic:

My main gripe is just that they seem to have mapped controls in a retro way for nostalgia reasons and it holds the game back. Rather than triggering the moves organically through context, the left trigger is again used as a face button modifier. Jump with A, high jump with LT+A. Sonar ping with Y, Sonar explosion with LT+Y. They didn’t need to do that but at least the animations are short to trigger so it isn’t too painful.

How would you have done it? I don’t think I’m against the LT being used in this way. For instance, how would you have implemented a high jump like what they have? Or would you have removed the move entirely?

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CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I think the high jump could’ve been handled by either holding the jump button down to control the height like most platformers do or by having a system to time the jump in a multi-jump sequence to gain height like Mario 64 used. I also don’t see why a double jump wouldn’t suffice as an unlock in its place.

This is a key example of what I mean by the nostalgia is holding them back. The moves are mostly copies of BK and it didn’t need to be that way.

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- AlolanYoda@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I understand. I thought you had a better way of implementing the high jump with different properties, instead of just removing it altogether. To be fair, I’d remove it too and a double jump would probably be my preferred approach!
  
  I like Mario 64’s triple jump, but I don’t think it’d be a good fit for a colectathon like this. I can’t put to words why I think it’d be different in YL, but I have a feeling that I’d get really annoyed if it asked me to use multi-jumps often to reach specific ledges. I don’t think triple jumps are ever required in Mario games, are they? I doubt YL would ever introduce a move and not flood the levels after that with obstacles that you need to use the move on to progress
  
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